Problems with Sony CDRs, Heads up

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#1

I have some Sony CDRs with a Sony media ID and yellow label in a 50 pack. These absolutely fail to burn, problem with writing Lead-in, on my Plex. Premium, Liteon 1693, and NEC 4570. I can get them to write on my Liteon 165P6S and the write quality at 24X is a little better than CMC at the same speed.

I will not be getting anymore of these when the 50 are gone. Anyone else, be alerted.


#2

Not sure if we get the same CDRs here in England, but my mum likes using Sony, so I buy them for her. I’ll keep my eyes out in future, thanks for the heads-up. :slight_smile:


#3

Sony is selling TY CDR’s in the USA in 30-ct spindles.

Sony-Daxon CDR’s have always been pretty marginal in some burners. I’ve only seen them made in Austria, where were these made?


#4

Daxons are made in Taiwan, not in Austria.
MIA is Sony’s own factory, but 3A Media is another business making discs in Austria.
(Speaking of European discs, I’m still waiting for the first MIF discs to arrive, because Made in Finland sounds cool…)


#5

I have no problems at all with my made in Austria Sony CD-Rs (green cakebox). I can actually recommend this media as a good (albeit not as good) and relatively cheap alternative to TY CD media, at least for Europeans that is. I have burned hundreds of these, and not a single one has failed to date. Burn quality is excellent.

Brand: Sony 48x CD-R (50 Spindle), U80SD-D0015 9
ATIP: 97m24s16f, Sony
Burner: Plextor Premium 1.06
Burned at 32x with Nero 7.0.8.2 (3:15 Min)




#6

packetloss: How do I tell Sony MIA CD-Rs from MBI or other marginal CD-R’s cakebox?


#7

Sony CD media made by Moser Baer? I haven’t had any MBI made Sony media yet, and I really bought a ton of these from retailers here in Germany (typical green Sony cakeboxes you see everywhere). I was just unlucky once, and got Daxon discs which didn’t burn nearly as good as those Sony ATIP discs do. The cakebox looked exactly the same though, so I don’t know how to tell the good from the marginal stuff.

Most Sony optical media sold in Europe these days should be made in Austria though (makes sense economically). Unfortunately, Sony (Europe) has a nasty habit of not printing the country of origin anywhere.


#8

As a comparison, a scan of a Sony branded Daxon disc.

Brand: Sony 48x CD-R (50 Spindle)
ATIP: 97m22s67f, Daxon
Burner: Plextor Premium 1.05
Burned at 32x with Nero 6.6.0.5 (3:21 Min)




#9

And another Sony CD burned a few minutes ago, best scan to date with this media.

Brand: Sony 48x CD-R (50 Spindle), U80SD-D0015 9
ATIP: 97m24s16f, Sony
Burner: Plextor Premium 1.06
Burned at 32x with Nero 7.0.8.2 (3:16 Min)




#10

Daxon also has a factory in Malaysia making CD-Rs.


#11

I went to a shop today and saw the slightly different font on the cakebox, so this must be the way to tell Sony’s Austrian from other media.

Thanks for suggesting me a new brand for every day use CD-R =)


#12

ok hear this. I bought Sony audio cd-r 80min 30 pk spindle made in japan(TY).My first burn using nero 6.6.1.4 on my benq 1650 fails at 16x. i tested it on 12x and 24x and both passed.Go figure. I’ll try using sonic recordnow 7.3 and see what happens.does anyone else have the same problem? why does this media burn @ 12x/24x only?


#13

Audio CD-R isn’t a very good idea unless you use this type of media in a standalone recorder.

why does this media burn @ 12x/24x only?
Because the firmware of your drive supports only these speeds for that media.
Just an example:

Nero CD/DVD speed reports these write speeds for my drives:

  • Verbatim Pastell (TY) 52x
    LG GSA-4163B: 4X-8X-16X-24X-32X-40X()
    Benq DW 1650: 12X-16X-24X-32X-40X-48X(
    )
    Samsung SH-W 163A: 8X-16X-24X-32X-40X
    Liteon SOHR-5239V: 12X-16X-24X-32X-40X-48X-52X(*)

  • Verbatim Data Life Plus 52x
    LG GSA-4163B: 4X-8X-16X-24X-32X-40X()
    Benq DW 1650: 12X-16X-24X-32X-40X-48X(
    )
    Samsung SH-W 163A: 8X-16X-24X-32X-40X-48X(*)
    Liteon SOHR-5239V: 12X-16X-24X-32X-40X

  • Sony “Supremas” 40x
    LG GSA-4163B: 4X-8X-16X-24X-32X-40X(*)
    Benq DW 1650: 12X-16X
    Samsung SH-W 163A: 8X-16X-24X-32X
    Liteon SOHR-5239V: 12X-16X-24X-32X

Michael

(*) denotes max speed for the particular drive


#14

thanx mciahel for replying the thing that puzzled me was the fact that it skips 16x. But it might be due to the fact that the drive/media is not supported for some reason.I’m going to stay away from these audio CD-R for sure from now on even tho its TY. Another Q. since my drive can burn those @12x OR 24x only which is safer to use knowing that these CD-R’s are marked as 24x (max speed given)?tx


#15

24x. Although I believe that this is because drives will burn discs for audio data only at lower speed.