Problems ripping Asian DVDs

littlejon 2006-04-01 08:59:38 UTC #1

I am trying to copy asian imports I bought at a mall kiosk but I am getting errors that stop ripping halfway through the process. It stops at the exact same point every time. I've tried DVD Decrypter, AnyDVD, CloneDVD2, DVDFab, and Alcohol 120%. Each Is there anything anyone can recommend? I would be grateful for any advice given.

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 09:01:59 UTC #2

more info is needed.

what titles, regions, formats are the dvds you are trying to rip?

what versions of programs do you have that you are attempting to rip with?

exact error message narratives are needed.

what's the model of your ripper?

what firmware revision is installed?

also, for future reference, posting the same question in more than one forum is not allowed.

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:10:24 UTC #3

Sorry about that.
Here is the Log from Alcohol 120%:

(E:) HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GWA-4164B (atapi, Port 5, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0)
(F:) LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S (atapi, Port 5, Bus 0, Target 1, Lun 0)
(K:) AZ1152R HLM763M (vaxscsi, Port 6, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0)

############### Installed Device Drivers List

1394BUS.SYS ACPI.sys afd.sys ALCXWDM.SYS AmdK8.sys
AnyDVD.sys arp1394.sys atapi.sys audstub.sys Beep.SYS
BOOTVID.dll Cdfs.SYS cdrom.sys CLASSPNP.SYS disk.sys
dmio.sys dmload.sys drmk.sys dump_atapi.sys dump_WMILIB.SYS
Dxapi.sys dxg.sys dxgthk.sys ElbyCDFL.sys ElbyCDIO.sys
ElbyDelay.sys Fastfat.SYS fdc.sys Fips.SYS fltMgr.sys
Fs_Rec.SYS ftdisk.sys hal.dll HIDCLASS.SYS HIDPARSE.SYS
hidusb.sys HTTP.sys imapi.sys int15.sys ipnat.sys
ipsec.sys irda.sys irenum.sys irsir.sys isapnp.sys
kbdclass.sys kbdhid.sys KDCOM.DLL kmixer.sys ks.sys
KSecDD.sys mnmdd.SYS mouclass.sys mouhid.sys MountMgr.sys
mrxdav.sys mrxsmb.sys Msfs.SYS msgpc.sys mssmbios.sys
Mup.sys NAVENG.Sys NavEx15.Sys NDIS.sys ndistapi.sys
ndisuio.sys ndiswan.sys NDProxy.SYS netbios.sys netbt.sys
nic1394.sys Npfs.SYS ntdll.dll Ntfs.sys NTIDrvr.sys
ntkrnlpa.exe Null.SYS nv4_disp.dll nv4_mini.sys NVENETFD.sys
nvnetbus.sys NVNRM.SYS NVSNPU.SYS ohci1394.sys parport.sys
PartMgr.sys pci.sys pciide.sys PCIIDEX.SYS portcls.sys
psched.sys ptilink.sys PxHelp20.sys rasacd.sys rasirda.sys
rasl2tp.sys raspppoe.sys raspptp.sys raspti.sys rdbss.sys
RDPCDD.sys rdpdr.sys redbook.sys SAVRT.SYS SAVRTPEL.SYS
SCSIPORT.SYS serenum.sys serial.sys SPBBCDrv.sys sptd.sys
SPTD0605.SYS sr.sys srv.sys swenum.sys SYMDNS.SYS
SYMEVENT.SYS SYMFW.SYS SYMIDS.SYS symidsco.sys SYMNDIS.SYS
SYMREDRV.SYS SYMTDI.SYS sysaudio.sys tcpip.sys TDI.SYS
termdd.sys UBHelper.SYS Udfs.SYS update.sys usbccgp.sys
USBD.SYS usbehci.sys usbhub.sys usbohci.sys USBPORT.SYS
usbprint.sys USBSTOR.SYS vaxscsi.sys vga.sys VIDEOPRT.SYS
VolSnap.sys wanarp.sys watchdog.sys wdmaud.sys win32k.sys
WMILIB.SYS

############ Detailed Information of Device(s)

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
(E:) HL-DT-ST DVDRRW GWA-4164B(5:0) detail information.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Vendor Identification: HL-DT-ST
Product Identification: DVDRRW GWA-4164B
Production Revision Level: 1.02
Location: atapi, Port 5, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0
Support recording method: DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB, RAW DAO(96), DVD DAO
BURN-Free Technology: Unknown
Auto-Select best write speed: Not Supported
*** NOT listed in Alcohol's database. Please report to development team
-* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
-* This software does not use this information! *-
Removable media: Yes
Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
Response Data Format: 02h
CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
Test Write: Yes
DVD-ROM Read: Yes
DVD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
Audio Play: Yes
Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
Multi-Session: Yes
BUF: Yes
CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
R-W Supported: No
R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
C2 Pointers Support: No
ISRC Supported: Yes
UPC Supported: Yes
Read Bar Code: No
Lock media into the drive: Yes
Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
Prevent Jumper: No
Eject Command: Yes
Separate volume levels: Yes
Separate channel mute: Yes
Changer Supports Disc Present: No
Software slot selection: No
Side change capable: No
P through W in Lead-In: No

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
(F:) LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S(5:1) detail information.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Vendor Identification: LITE-ON
Product Identification: DVD SOHD-16P9S
Production Revision Level: FRS3
Location: atapi, Port 5, Bus 0, Target 1, Lun 0
-* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
-* This software does not use this information! *-
Removable media: Yes
Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
Response Data Format: 02h
CD-R Read/Write: Yes/No
CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/No
Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
Test Write: No
DVD-ROM Read: Yes
DVD-R Read/Write: Yes/No
DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
Audio Play: Yes
Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: Yes
Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
Multi-Session: Yes
BUF: No
CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
R-W Supported: Yes
R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
C2 Pointers Support: Yes
ISRC Supported: Yes
UPC Supported: Yes
Read Bar Code: No
Lock media into the drive: Yes
Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
Prevent Jumper: No
Eject Command: Yes
Separate volume levels: Yes
Separate channel mute: Yes
Changer Supports Disc Present: No
Software slot selection: No
Side change capable: No
P through W in Lead-In: Yes

################# Dumping/Recording Progress Log

********* Time stamp of this log file: 4/1/2006 12:06:18 PM *********
12:06:18 Processor info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ x 2 (2009MHz)
12:06:18 Disc dumping: (F:) LITE-ON DVD SOHD-16P9S(5:1)
12:06:18 Reading Mode: General Mode
12:06:18 DVD Source Info: Session: 1, Track: 1, Length: 4.24 GB / 493:48:28
12:06:21 Writing image file: C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathan Jiles\My Documents\Alcohol 120%\SEVEN_SWORDS_1.mdf
12:06:39 Disc read error at: 2198
12:06:39 Disc dumping failed!
12:06:39 Error message: [03/11/06] - CIRC Unrecovered Error
12:06:39 C:\Documents and Settings\Jonathan Jiles\My Documents\Alcohol 120%\SEVEN_SWORDS_1.mds: Image file writing aborted!

nwg 2006-04-01 09:11:23 UTC #4

Asian DVD's are usually bootlegs and don't have a region code. If they do then they would probably be region 3.

They have also been known to be supplied on bad cheap media which would cause problems when reading them.

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:14:34 UTC #5

Hey NWG. Do you have any solutions to my problem? The copy looks good when I play it. Is it possible to copy the movie?

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 09:14:57 UTC #6

littlejon, you've supplied one log file from one program. you still need to answer the other questions if you're looking for help.

if you've bought bootlegs then we can't help you.

can you post the anydvd info window for one of your purchased titles?

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:30:05 UTC #7

How can you tell if it is a bootleg? And why can't I copy it if it is?

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 09:38:07 UTC #8

you might be able to copy it if it's bootleg, but as per the forum rules that you agreed to upon signing up, no questions about or help with illegal activities is permitted.

besides, if it's bootleg chances are the discs are such poor quality they are un-rippable anyway. i can't remember the last bootleg operation i saw that had a quality control center...

post your anydvd info window on one or more of the titles and we might be able to determine if this is the case.

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:39:44 UTC #9

Gotcha. I think don't think it's a bootleg. Here is the info you requested:

Summary for drive F: (AnyDVD 5.9.4.1)
Drive (Hardware) Region: 1

Media is a Data DVD.
Booktype: dvd-rom (version 1), Layers: 1
Total size: 2222128 sectors (4340 MBytes)

Video DVD (or CD) label: SEVEN_SWORDS_1
Media is not CSS protected.
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is region free.

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Found & removed invalid VOBUs!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 09:41:19 UTC #10

i'm going with there's a 99% chance that this title is bootleg.

no CSS protection? no region coding?

flip the disc over. is the bottom of the disc purple or silver?

rapid_fire 2006-04-01 09:44:45 UTC #11

Reasons, it doesn't matter cause nowadays professional copies could also be silver(just good pressed), it began with audio cds and now with dvds. But i guess it's purple too.

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 09:48:30 UTC #12

that's true that pirates press CDs nowadays. i'm still saying this disc is a bootleg. amazon.com confirms that this disc was released in the US back in october. if it were a legitimate copy, it would at the very least have a region code

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:48:41 UTC #13

Ok, it is silver on the bottom. I guess it is a bootleg. Thanks for all your help.

littlejon 2006-04-01 09:49:30 UTC #14

Ok, it is silver on the bottom. I guess it is a bootleg. Thanks for all your help anyway.

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 10:00:32 UTC #15

silver denotes a pressed disc. amateur bootlegs are usually burned (purple).

chances are if they have a kiosk in the mall, this isn't a small bootlegging operation.

my best guess is that there are mastering errors on the disc, but since it's a bootleg (taboo topics aside) we really have no way of saying what might be wrong with the disc. who knows where it came from.

in the future, if you need help with backing up discs, we're glad to help out, but for our analyses to mean anything, the disc must come from a legitimate source. if the disc is not from a legitimate source than that introduces MANY variables than cannot be troubleshot.

sorry you ended up with bootlegs. i assume a mod will close this thread sometime in the near future.

don't let this deter you from coming back if you need any help in the future though!

rapid_fire 2006-04-01 10:07:11 UTC #16

That's true too with the region code, but since there's not a css and no region code maybe a prof copy like i mentioned before or maybe porn or just cheapo made stuff.

littlejon 2006-04-01 10:07:55 UTC #17

You learn something new everyday.

I won't hesitate to come back. Thanks again for all you guys' help. I really appreciate it.

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 10:10:02 UTC #18

haha i think porn is the only exception to the rule when it comes to region codes and CSS protection. even most cheaply made dvds will have at least a region code and CSS.

i even have original porn dvds obtained from the distributer (not even through a reseller) that are region free with ZERO copy protection.

don't ask how i'm able to purchase porn direct...haha

rapid_fire 2006-04-01 10:14:00 UTC #19

Don't you work in a dvd store? This would explain much, but hey guess what you're not the only person who works in a dvd store, me too!

reasonsnotrules 2006-04-01 10:20:49 UTC #20

i work at a national corporate chain though. we don't carry porn at all. my bf has a buddy that works for a adult video production company haha