Problem with ntsc to pal

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#1

hi all am new to vso convertxtodvd but up to now been very happy with results
all my converts so far have been avi files either 25fps or 23fps and i wanted them in vob pal and it did them the odd shudder or jerk now and then but nothing i couldnt live with…but i have a few files that are 29fps and when i try to convert them.
it is keeping the resulting vob files as 29fps even though the log shows pal 25fps output format set by user.
some help would be great


#2

Hi there,

Always provide us a full conversion log.

Theres tons of information in there.

I have not converted .VOB yet but logs should tell us much more.

Latest version is v2.0.12.126c


#3

hi ty for answering below is log i just tried again without success i did notice a lot of rc buffer underflow…what is this and what causes it

06/06/2006 09:56:08 info ********** Report session closed ***********
06/06/2006 09:55:53 info --------------Encoding end--------------
06/06/2006 09:53:16 info Conversion completed in 01:35:24
06/06/2006 09:52:52 info ------------Converting Menu--------------
06/06/2006 09:47:02 info Chapter #15 start at 69:59.628
06/06/2006 09:46:27 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:45:11 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:44:02 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:39:26 info Chapter #14 start at 64:59.629
06/06/2006 09:38:08 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:38:07 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:38:06 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:32:18 info Chapter #13 start at 59:59.629
06/06/2006 09:28:39 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:26:04 info Chapter #12 start at 54:59.629
06/06/2006 09:25:24 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:21:30 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:20:06 info Chapter #11 start at 49:59.629
06/06/2006 09:20:02 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:20:01 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:16:02 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:14:18 info Chapter #10 start at 44:59.630
06/06/2006 09:12:02 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:11:17 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:11:12 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:11:00 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:08:10 info Chapter #9 start at 39:59.630
06/06/2006 09:04:41 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:02:20 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:50 info Chapter #8 start at 34:59.630
06/06/2006 09:01:36 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:36 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:33 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:33 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:32 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:32 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:30 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:01:28 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 09:00:09 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:59:15 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:59:05 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:56:43 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:55:57 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:55:57 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:55:31 info Chapter #7 start at 29:59.631
06/06/2006 08:55:14 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:50:50 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:49:03 info Chapter #6 start at 24:59.631
06/06/2006 08:48:58 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:48:17 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:47:47 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:47:47 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:43:03 info Chapter #5 start at 19:59.631
06/06/2006 08:37:33 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:37:33 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:36:56 info Chapter #4 start at 14:59.632
06/06/2006 08:35:46 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:35:26 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:35:26 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:35:25 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:35:23 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:31:00 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:30:57 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:30:37 info Chapter #3 start at 9:59.632
06/06/2006 08:30:33 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:30:06 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:29:54 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:28:52 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:24:24 info Chapter #2 start at 4:59.632
06/06/2006 08:20:48 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:20:45 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:20:43 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:18:39 info ENGINE: rc buffer underflow
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Stream #1 Sync. delay : 0.00 ms
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Stream #0 Sync. delay : 0.00 ms
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Output Stream#1 - Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 192 kb/s
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576, q=1-31, 7709 kb/s
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Video Stream #0 framerate : 25.00 Fps (source 29.98 Fps), no pulldown
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Padded source image : Left 0, Top 16, Right 0, Bottom 16
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Video source original frame rate: 29.98
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info PAL 25 FPS output format set by user
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Widescreen (16:9) set automatically
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Video bitrate 0/7709/8308 Kbps (min/avg/max)
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Converting "H:\1MOVIES\movies to convert to vob\dragon two metal ages\line-metal.avi"
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info ----------------Title #1----------------
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Project size 4.2 Gb. (100 Mb. audio - 4.1 Gb. video)
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Stream #1 - Audio: mp3, 48000 Hz, stereo, 112 kb/s
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Stream #0 - Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 576x304
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info 2 Stream(s) found - est. duration 01:13:06.753
06/06/2006 08:17:51 info Opening file "H:\1MOVIES\movies to convert to vob\dragon two metal ages\line-metal.avi"
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info New media inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [X] Engine Log
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info Encoder quality: 100%
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info --------------Encoding begin--------------
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info --------------Menu settings end--------------
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [X] Sequential playback
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [X] Loop Playback
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Auto start playback
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [X] Menu
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info --------------Menu settings begin--------------
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info --------------Default burn settings end--------------
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info Default speed selected: Max
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info Compatible media types : CD-R, CD-RW
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info New Drive selected : 1:1:0 - HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8483B 1.00 [E] (Ide)
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Delete files after burn complete
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Don’t eject after burn complete
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Prefer SAO for DVD-R
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Include originals
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info [ ] Burn result to DVD
06/06/2006 08:17:45 info --------------Default burn settings begin--------------
06/06/2006 08:13:07 info New media inserted. Burning layer is ready to write
06/06/2006 08:13:03 info User default language : 2057 (0x0809h) - English (United Kingdom)
06/06/2006 08:13:03 info System default language : 2057 (0x0809h) - English (United Kingdom)
06/06/2006 08:13:03 info Version 2.0.12.126
06/06/2006 08:13:03 info ExeName : "C:\Program Files\vso\ConvertXtoDVD\ConvertXtoDvd.exe"
06/06/2006 08:13:03 info OS : Microsoft Windows XP Personal Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
06/06/2006 08:13:01 info ******************** Report session started ********************


#4

Hi there,

06/06/2006 09:53:16 info Conversion completed in 01:35:24

Based on this log, everything looks normal.

Now those [B]ENGINE: rc buffer underflow[/B] are just engine messages for the VSO Programmers, I guess they are normal, but you have a lot, maybe means something like low memory, or to many frames processed who knows :slight_smile:

What is the media id of your blanks DVDs ?
Media ID can be found in the burn logs.

You are sure those .vob are 29fps and not 25fps ?

You are sure it’s not a playback issue based on cheap media and/or burned too fast ?

Thanks for the logs, I’m sure someone else will come up with an idea !

Just relooked at the logs

06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x576, q=1-31, 7709 kb/s
06/06/2006 08:17:52 info Video Stream #0 framerate : 25.00 Fps (source 29.98 Fps), no pulldown

I don’t recall seeing [B]framerate:[/B] before, maybe this file is weird :slight_smile:

You usually see just this:

5/26/2006 7:39:19 PM info Output Stream#0 - Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=1-31, 1914 kb/s
5/26/2006 7:39:19 PM info Video Stream #0 Pulldown : 23.976 -> 29.97 Fps
5/26/2006 7:39:19 PM info Video source original frame rate: 23.98
5/26/2006 7:39:19 PM info NTSC 29.97 FPS output format set by user

My 2 cents…


#5

its a avi file avicodec shows it at 29.xxx frames i want it in pal 25fps i havent even bothered burning as after its converted i check the vob files for frame rate and avicodec is still showing them as 29.xxx fps i dont understand what the problem is. anything i convert that is 29fps is staying at 29fps if i convert an avi file that is either 23fps or 25fps then it converts to 25fps vob files without a problem.
hope someone can help also i converted another file straight after i did the one withe the log above and that is fine and i only had one instance of rc buffer underflow


#6

Confirm. I tried converting NTSC vob to PAL - result is PAL size 720*572 but framerate is 29.97.

Reporting this as bug.


#7

well if its a bug guess no work around until its fixed in new version.
but i will state again as i see ppl saying ntsc vob and i must be missing something or i am misunderstanding the files i start with are avi and not vob.
the end result are vob sorry if that is what is being stated but just clearing it up.
because if it is a bug i would like to see if it is fixable in the not to distant future or i may as well bin the files


#8

Thanks JJ for having reported the issue to VSO.


#9

On the newest version of ConvertXtodVd

I also am suddenly getting BUFFER UNDERFLOW messages, many of them as seen in above log.

but on converting AVI to DVD
never saw this error before

the DVD seems ok, but does not seem to be the full quality that I would expect normally. (visually)…

restarted the app, it still does the same on that AVI video.

as for the comment about “Framerate not being seen before” above.
Framerate is a normal line -> it’s always been in the log.
put simple: on framerate for DVD -> PAL is 25… NTSC is 29.xx


#10

any fix on this yet i heard there was a beta version out


#11

http://bugs.vso-software.fr/view.php?id=173 no it does not seem to have been resolved yet