Well, I found the solution, and it had nothing to do w/ drivers, os, or anything. After trying many different master slave combinations i finally decided that maybe the ide cable was messed up, although I couldn't fathom how that could happen so when i went to switch it out, I noticed that a pin in the secondary ide plub on the mb was bent. Straightened it out with out breaking it, set up my original configuration, and voila, problem solved. Then pin would have had to have been bent the entire time, so apparently it was not important for a regular cd rom drive. Oh, well.