Problem burning double layer

Hi there,

Specs:
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
HP DVD Writer 630c (with latest firmware ch16)
Philips Double Layer DVD+R (8x)

I’m using double layer media for the first time. In the past I’ve always used DVD Shrink and burned many many movies succesfully. I tried burning a FULL movie now since I have double layer media. I first use “Read” in Decrypter followed by “Write” and I can’t seem to get past writing the lead-in. I always end up getting a “Session Fixation Error Writing Lead-In”… essentially making a coaster. I’ve tried repeatedly and have made many coasters now. I even tried burning using Nero and got past burning the first layer and screwed up during the second layer.

My burner (HP 630c) clearly states it’s a dual layer burner. Could anyone please let me know what I’m doing wrong? Is my media not compatible with my burner? Am I using crappy media?

Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Here’s a log from IMGBURN:

I 10:32:13 ImgBurn Version 2.0.0.0 started!
I 10:32:13 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 10:32:14 Initialising SPTI…
I 10:32:14 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices…
I 10:32:14 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 10:40:47 Operation Started!
I 10:40:47 Building Image Tree…
I 10:40:47 Checking Directory Depth…
I 10:40:47 Calculating Totals…
I 10:40:47 Preparing Image…
W 10:41:21 User has ignored layer break options!
I 10:41:22 Checking Path Length…
I 10:41:22 Image Size: 8,427,993,088 bytes
I 10:41:22 Image Sectors: 4,115,231
I 10:41:26 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:38
I 10:41:26 Operation Started!
I 10:41:26 Image Contents: 34 Files, 2 Folders
I 10:41:26 Image Sectors: 4,115,231
I 10:41:26 Image Size: 8,427,993,088 bytes
I 10:41:26 Image Layer Break Position: 2,057,616
I 10:41:26 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD-R/RW (Media Capacity: 2,298,496)
I 10:41:26 Image Double Layer Profile: DVD+R DL (Min L0: 0, Max L0: 2,086,912, Media Capacity: 4,173,824)
I 10:41:26 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! © 2006 LIGHTNING UK!
I 10:41:26 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 10:41:26 Image File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:41:26 Destination File: C:\united93.iso
I 10:41:26 Destination Free Space: 16,986,021,888 bytes (16,587,912 KB) (16,199 MB) (15 GB)
I 10:41:26 Destination File System: NTFS
I 10:41:26 File Splitting: Auto
I 10:41:26 Writing Image…
I 10:41:32 Abort Request Acknowledged
E 10:41:33 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 00:00:06
E 10:41:33 Average Write Rate: 16,623 KB/s (12.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 19,432 KB/s (14.0x)
I 10:41:47 Operation Started!
I 10:41:47 Building Image Tree…
I 10:41:47 Checking Directory Depth…
I 10:41:47 Calculating Totals…
I 10:41:47 Preparing Image…
I 10:41:57 Using Layer Break LBA: 2059066 -> 2059072 (VTS_01, PGC: 1, Cell: 17, Vob/Cell ID: 2/16, Time: 01:12:35, SPLIP: Yes -> No)
I 10:41:57 Checking Path Length…
I 10:41:57 Image Size: 8,428,005,376 bytes
I 10:41:57 Image Sectors: 4,115,237
I 10:42:02 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:15
I 10:42:02 Operation Started!
I 10:42:02 Image Contents: 34 Files, 2 Folders
I 10:42:02 Image Sectors: 4,115,237
I 10:42:02 Image Size: 8,428,005,376 bytes
I 10:42:02 Image Layer Break Position: 2,059,072
I 10:42:02 Image Single Layer Profile: DVD-R/RW (Media Capacity: 2,298,496)
I 10:42:02 Image Double Layer Profile: DVD+R DL (Min L0: 0, Max L0: 2,086,912, Media Capacity: 4,173,824)
I 10:42:02 Image Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! © 2006 LIGHTNING UK!
I 10:42:02 Image Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 10:42:02 Image File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:42:02 Destination File: C:\united93.iso
I 10:42:02 Destination Free Space: 16,883,888,128 bytes (16,488,172 KB) (16,101 MB) (15 GB)
I 10:42:02 Destination File System: NTFS
I 10:42:02 File Splitting: Auto
I 10:42:02 Writing Image…
I 10:51:53 Image MD5: 638241953cc5e27dbc69a14eebe16c57
I 10:51:54 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:51
I 10:51:54 Average Write Rate: 13,926 KB/s (10.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 25,379 KB/s (18.3x)
I 10:58:54 Operation Started!
I 10:58:54 Source File: C:\united93.MDS
I 10:58:54 Source File Sectors: 4,115,237 (MODE1/2048)
I 10:58:54 Source File Size: 8,428,005,376 bytes
I 10:58:54 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER! © 2006 LIGHTNING UK!
I 10:58:54 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 10:58:54 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 10:58:54 Destination Device: [1:0:0] HP DVD Writer 630c CH16 (D:) (ATA)
I 10:58:54 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: CMC MAG-D04-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)
I 10:58:54 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
I 10:58:54 Write Mode: DVD
I 10:58:54 Write Type: DAO
I 10:58:54 Write Speed: 2.4x
I 10:58:54 Link Size: Auto
I 10:58:54 Test Mode: No
I 10:58:54 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 10:58:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,059,072
I 10:58:54 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
I 10:58:58 Filling Buffer…
I 10:59:01 Writing LeadIn…
W 10:59:07 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:07 Retrying (1 of 20)…
W 10:59:07 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:07 Retrying (2 of 20)…
W 10:59:07 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:07 Retrying (3 of 20)…
W 10:59:07 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:07 Retrying (4 of 20)…
W 10:59:08 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:08 Retrying (5 of 20)…
W 10:59:08 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:08 Retrying (6 of 20)…
W 10:59:08 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:08 Retrying (7 of 20)…
W 10:59:08 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:08 Retrying (8 of 20)…
W 10:59:08 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:08 Retrying (9 of 20)…
W 10:59:09 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:09 Retrying (10 of 20)…
W 10:59:09 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:09 Retrying (11 of 20)…
W 10:59:09 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:09 Retrying (12 of 20)…
W 10:59:09 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:09 Retrying (13 of 20)…
W 10:59:09 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:09 Retrying (14 of 20)…
W 10:59:10 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:10 Retrying (15 of 20)…
W 10:59:10 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:10 Retrying (16 of 20)…
W 10:59:10 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:10 Retrying (17 of 20)…
W 10:59:10 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:10 Retrying (18 of 20)…
W 10:59:10 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:10 Retrying (19 of 20)…
W 10:59:11 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
W 10:59:11 Retrying (20 of 20)…
W 10:59:11 Retry Failed - Power Calibration Area Is Full
E 10:59:14 Failed to Write Sectors 0 - 31 - Power Calibration Area Is Full
I 10:59:14 Synchronising Cache…
I 10:59:15 Closing Track…
I 10:59:16 Finalising Disc…
E 11:06:26 Finalise Disc Failed! - Reason: Invalid Field in CDB
E 11:06:26 Failed to Write Image!
E 11:06:26 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:07:32
I 11:06:26 Average Write Rate: N/A - Maximum Write Rate: N/A

I just started burning dual layer disks too. I use DVDDecrypter to put movie to harddrive and then I use Slysoft DVDClone2 to burn to disk. When using DVDClone2 to burn at the bottom of first screen is a box that asks for what type of disk, I choose D/L and the pick movie and burn movie. Works just fine. By the way, you can download DVDClone2 from the Slysoft web-site as a trial to see if you like it.

Good luck

Probably crappy media, use only Verbatim DL discs.

Agree with MikeyD810.

Sorry to tell the truth but you have to dump the “Philips Double Layer DVD+R (8x)” media. If you can get your money back, fine … otherwise throw them in the trash and don’t try to get your “money’s worth” by trying to get them to work.

Buy Verbatim DL only … and forever more. Virtually no company other than Verbatim can make reliable DL media.

Best regards,
Whisperer

Alright, thanks guys. I guess I shall get Verbatim DL from now on.

On a last note, what do you guys think of Memorex DL?

With Memorex DL, it’s sort of your civic duty to burn the media first, before trashing it … this prevents any innocent person, who might retrieve your discarded Memorex disks, from the unnecessary cruelty and suffering of trying to make them work. It also saves data and disk space because neither you nor the trash retriever will be posting problem questions here on the cdf forums. :wink:

in other words, :Z

i know DL media can be expensive and that our answers seem harsh to some, but until manufacturers start making a product that WORKS with a wider variety of burners Verbatim is really the only game in town for DL media.

it’s just as cheap as the other brands when it’s on sale so keep an eye on the bargain basement forum if you’re looking for deals.

if you live in the US DL media has come down in price pretty drastically lately. the most I would pay is $2 a disc…if you can’t find it at that price or lower then wait for a better sale…they’re on sale about every other week.

while the media is VERY important, it’s also worth mentioning to be sure that your firmware is up to date for your burner. updated firmware is important so that your burner recognizes newer media and knows how to write to it.

another important factor with DL media is burn speed. burn at the rated speed of the media. too slow can cause as many problems as too fast. if your firmware is up to date and you’re using quality media, the rated speed should be just fine.

I just wanted to point those other 2 things out even though i agree that your problem at the moment is a 99% chance of crappy media.

The drive described has run out of the PCA in attempting to select a power level that works with the Philips discs. The problem may be poor media, but it is far more likely to be that the drive simply does not recognize the discs. All DL drives recognize Verbatim DL media because Verbatim invented DL. Memorex DL are Ritek discs, and they are almost as good as Verbatim in drives that are set up for Ritek/Ricoh MID codes. Some of the best DL recordings I’ve seen are on CMC DL in a Plextor drive; but those discs are not likely to work on most other drives. Since these discs are 8X, there is a very good chance they are inverse stack discs; and the drive will not be able to write to them. I realize it’s more fun to call other brands dirty names, but the facts are a bit more complicated than that.

Short & easy: Grab Verbatim DL and feed it to your burner.

Hi,
I just bought a stack of Verbatim DL discs. It says they are 10x. I have an HP 630c CH16. It does not burn these. Is the “inverse stack” mentioned in above post on all 8x or just non-verbatim? Is there anyway to trick it into working? I’ll get new drive but not for a month or so.

ps. tried on xp(nero 6) and vista(nero 7) with diff results, only in vista was disc ruined, xp disc was still usable in another burner.

After reading the log it says “User has ignored layerbreak options?”

Why did you do this and did you set a layer break yourself before using IMGBurn?

You need to set a layerbreak.

[quote=BoSox2882;1934729]After reading the log it says “User has ignored layerbreak options?”

Why did you do this and did you set a layer break yourself before using IMGBurn?

You need to set a layerbreak.[/quote]
After reading what log. Are you talking about the one from 2006 from a different poster? Where does it say that he is even using Imgburn? :confused:

Do you mean post #2??

W 10:41:21 User has ignored layer break options!

Times change…