Problem Backing Up "The Notebook"

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

I'm using CloneDvd2 to burn it, I split the discs and take out everything off the first disc expect the the menus and the movie. When I burn the disc it works fine loading right to the main menu. When I hit play it goes through the menu animation and then just goes black and stops. I tried burning it numerous times on different media and the only thing I could get it to play on was a DVD-RW. Why would it work on RW and not on anything else? I have had this problem before with other things that won't work right, RW works 99% but when I burn it on DVD-R different results even on the computer.

[Devilbmxskater]

What kind of disk are you using. It sounds like you have some bad dvd-r.

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

I'm using Verbatium dvd-r

[Tru]

I'm using CloneDvd2 to burn it, I split the discs and take out everything off the first disc expect the the menus and the movie. When I burn the disc it works fine loading right to the main menu. When I hit play it goes through the menu animation and then just goes black and stops. I tried burning it numerous times on different media and the only thing I could get it to play on was a DVD-RW. Why would it work on RW and not on anything else? I have had this problem before with other things that won't work right, RW works 99% but when I burn it on DVD-R different results even on the computer.

You probably have not included the main movie in the title selection. Have a closer look at the available titles. CloneDVD "skips" not included titles in the way you have described.

[BSpielbauer]

Quick question -- which may or not prove to be important...

What Region Code is this version of "The Notebook"?

(The Region 2 version of "Notebook" is on the ongoing list of discs with one of the newer forms of copy protection. If it is the Region 2 one, I believe that discs has the infamous "running boy / jumping boy" -- which can produce 3 to 7 minutes of completely black screen just prior to the beginning of the actual movie. This is easy to fix, but you have to relaize it is there, so it can be "removed.")

If it is not Region 2, then ignore this.

-Bruce

[Tru]

If it is the Region 2 one, I believe that discs has the infamous "running boy / jumping boy" -- which can produce 3 to 7 minutes of completely black screen just prior to the beginning of the actual movie. This is easy to fix, but you have to relaize it is there, so it can be "removed.")

Sounds interesting... Haven't heard of this type of protection before. Tell me more!

[BSpielbauer]

Sounds interesting... Haven't heard of this type of protection before. Tell me more!

This link below has most of the discs which feature this structure protection on it, and a couple of graphics showing both the "jumping boy" and also the "running boy."

Click here to see details about the running boy/jumping boy, and also Sony ARccOS

Note that this is a combined list, as it also discusses Sony's ARccOS protection, since they both are very similar in approach. Some believe that Sony sold a license for Sony ArCCos to another distributor, to use this form of protection, which led to the "running boy / jumping boy" protection. Others are convinced there is no relation between the two types of protection. Both have similarities (structure problems with the make-up of the disc). Both also have differences (corruption in the video exits only in the running boy variety).

To quote: "There is a video in VIDEO_TS.VOB where a kid jumps in the air, played over and over. DVD Shrink can't handle this video. It's a hidden video clip which is usually put in the subpictures."

And, for those who wonder as to its actual origin, the "jumping boy" scene is a clip from the movie "Billy Elliot." It is an "extra" of sorts -- a sort of a movie trailer -- which has been deliberately corrupted, and then encoded into the "unreferenced material" on a few recent DVDs.

The discs which have this "jumping boy / running boy" video as an extra often exhibit a complete blackout at the very beginning of any backups, even if one tries to rip only the movie. The blackout usually lasts from 3 to 8 minutes, roughly. If you preview the rip, and see this "black screen", it is easy to use your favorite software to simply "delete" this portion of the video, or to "blank" it out. Even DVDShrink can be used to do this -- once it has been ripped to your hard drive with another program -- as long as you know in advance that it needs to be done.

There have been cases where people assumed that the rip was unsuccessful, as they did not sit and wait patiently for the length of time until the lengthy "blackout intro" finally ran its course. Even worse, there have been people who wrongly assumed they had a bad burn...

This protection first surfaced last winter (December 2004, and January 2005, as I recall).

-Bruce

[Gurm]

The "Running Boy/Jumping Boy" copy protection is used on Region 1 discs as well, I've seen it in the "unreferenced material" plenty of times. But anyone who uses an up-to-date version of DVD Decrypter or AnyDVD will never even know it's there, since it's removed automagically.

I suggest updating your ripper. That's your entire problem.

[Tru]

The "Running Boy/Jumping Boy" copy protection is used on Region 1 discs as well, I've seen it in the "unreferenced material" plenty of times. But anyone who uses an up-to-date version of DVD Decrypter or AnyDVD will never even know it's there, since it's removed automagically.

That's the reason, why I've never noticed it.

[TheAnswerMVP2001]

Again it was the crappy Verbatium discs that were screwing it all up, I had the correct files, and no this was a Region 1 DVD. Now I'm having audio problems, when I burn it, it starts playing the Director Commentary and I have to manually change this, the strange thing is it does not do this when I play the file off my harddrive only when its burned to a disc.