Printable & Hub-printable DVD +/-R DL

[Steve83]

I've been waiting for these to become available, and I just found a few on MeritLine (haven't checked Rima etc. yet). But before buying any, I searched this forum back ~1.5 months & read several threads including those by SkyDomain, Aqualung, marshpm, & me4tux. None that I found discussed printables.

I realize that Ritek DLs have a bad rep, and Verb DLs are considered the standard, but what about the printables? I found Ritek 2.4x & 8x white printables; Verb 2.4-6x white printables; Playo 8x white hub; Philips 8X white hub; & Falcon 8X white hub. Is there actually a difference? The market seems so small right now that I find it hard to believe that 5 mfrs. are making these disks in such small quantities. Has anyone scanned any yet to find out who's really making them & which are useable?

I'm going to be burning data (not DVD-V) if it matters.

[MegaDETH]

I’m pretty sure that if Verbatim had hub printable DL on the market we would know.

So all those other are NOT Verbatim and not worth your time in the long run especially for data.

[Steve83]

My disks arrived from Meritline (Item code 104-124-020 $46+$12sh). They’re DataLifePlus MIS white printable from 35-119mm (PN 95123) with branding in the unprintable hub. I haven’t burned one yet, but here’s the stats through my NEC ND 3550A v1.05:

[B]Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.60: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MKM 001 (000)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 7.96 GB
: 8152 MB
: 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.98 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
ADIP Information (11h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - …2…"…
0010 - 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40 - …MKM…001.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 - %%7…/c./c!#…
0030 - 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 00 00 00 00 - …!#…[/B]

Oddly, the scan reports 8x compatibility, but the branding & cakebox label only say 2.4x . So here’s what my Lite-On SHM-165H6S HS06 says (both drives in this system):

[B]Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.60: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD+R DL
Book Type : DVD+R DL
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MKM 001 (000)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X
Blank Capacity : 7.96 GB
: 8152 MB
: 8547993600 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 2
Layer break : 3.98 GB
Write strategies : n/a
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - …2…"…
0010 - 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40 - …MKM…001.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 - %%7…/c./c!#…
0030 - 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 - …!#…
[/B]

It says 4x . WTF?

[SeanW]

If you want good quality full face printable DLs I would recommend That’s -R DLs, which you can find on nikonekoYa, an eBay store.
http://stores.ebay.com/nikoneko-Ya_DVD-Media_8-5GB-DVD-R-DL_10-Packs_W0QQcolZ2QQdirZ1QQfsubZ377986013QQftidZ2QQtZkm (These are the CPRM versions, they might have the non-CPRM version in stock at some point).

I got a 10 pack of these and I like 'em, all work fine and scan nicely, so far.
But if you don’t need hub printable (i.e. you can accept regular printable with Verbatim branding in the ring) then just about any Verbatim DL (if Made In Singapre) will do you right.

[jubjubbird]

[QUOTE=Steve83;2160970]
Oddly, the scan reports 8x compatibility, but the branding & cakebox label only say 2.4x . So here’s what my Lite-On SHM-165H6S HS06 says (both drives in this system):

It says 4x . WTF?[/QUOTE]

MKM001 is only 2.4 rated media, but some drives support it as a faster speed as it is good quality media.

[deanwitty]

Was on a quest last spring to find a printable DL(preferably hub-printable) with a zero coaster rate like verbatims. Ritek failed, Playo failed, then I took a chance on a 50 pack of Falcons from Meritline. Didn’t have to look any farther. Three 50 packs later, zero coasters, very good error scans with Discspeed, and any videos burned play nice in all my set-tops. Burned with Lite-on DH-20A4P, Optiarc AD-7200A, and Pioneer DVR-115D. Optiarc and Lite-on burns usually the lowest error rates. Meritline currently out of stock, but Falcon assured me that they intend to re-stock in the next 2 weeks.