Princo using Taiyo Yuden's ATIP code?

G’day all,

I have tested some Magmedia 2x-40x CDR-80’s, and thinking that they were made by Princo, this is what the ATIP test turned up:

ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
Disc Manufacturer: <b>Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.</b>
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

This Disc is designed for CD-RW/COMBO Drive Only.
Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Cyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 24s 01f
Norminal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f)
Disc Manufacturer maybe = <b>Taiyoyuden DX-dye</b>
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 16X (!!!)

That doesn’t look right!!!

The CD-R’s have all the signs of Princo-made discs, including, but not limited to:

  • Light blue recording dye
  • “CDR-80” label instead of “CD-R80”
  • Typical Princo translucent cake box with corrugated base and two “rings” on the bottom of the base
  • No inner disc wrapping for discs inside the cake box
  • AND… The words “Do not put into direct sunlight. Write with special soft marker pen only” printed in a curved line at the bottom of each of the labels on each disc.

So it seems that Princo MAY be using Taiyo Yuden’s ATIP code! To make things worse, these discs are limited to Smart-Burn = 16x-speed!!! :eek: :confused:

To confirm that these discs aren’t Taiyo Yudens, these discs DO NOT have the frosted centre hub rings like genuine Taiyo Yudens and they are MADE IN TAIWAN!!!


What on earth is the world coming to?
You can’t even trust crappy discs to be crappy :rolleyes:

G’day all,

Here are the results from the tests with this media:

Magmedia/Princo(???) 2x-40x CDR-80
Recorded at 16x (Smart-BURN) on a LiteOn LTR-32123S @ XS0Z
Read at 24x on a LiteOn LTR-32123S @ XS0Z

C1 Max: 36
C1 Average: 1.723
C2 Max: 0
C2 Average: 0.000

Seems OK except for a spike close to the beginning of the disc, hence the C1 Max is 36 instead of 22 or 23.

Still confused as to why these discs use Taiyo Yuden’s ATIP code.



i have some no-label dvd’s…they come from princo. When you read the atip info there is an other name instead of Princo.
Don’t know exactly what company is mentioned in the Atip, but it is known that they didn’t produce the dvd’s.

The company even warned customers about fake products that were not made by them but have their name in the Atip.

Perhaps this is the same

They were probably badged TDK.

Still confused as to why these discs use Taiyo Yuden’s ATIP code.

If it is a TY stamper, it’s a very old one. “79m 59s 74f” is the same as the old TY 16x.
74f = 16x
73f = 24x/32x
72f = 40/48x

As has been discussed in other threads, there’s nothing to prevent a maker from using any ATIP they please.