President obama

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#1

GUY’S
BARRACK OBAMA is now president elect, and
I feel that stupidity continues on the part of some AMERICANS.
A lot of people voted on emotion instead of logic.
First of all let me say out front I think it’s a greaty idea
that a minority has become president. The problem?
This man has no experience in being a leader. His votes
in the senate were mostly abstentions. So would I trust
this guy with the nuclear codes?. Myself no. I only
hope that when he bungles it. The AMERICAN people
will see more clearly the mistake they made.
ZAP.:(:frowning:


#2

After the Bush years america wanted a change Obama just in the right place at the right time. I did not vote for him but will like to see how he does.


#3

I agree with you CC. For the sake of the country I hope he is successful but he has zero experience and he is owned by special interests. I fear his economic policies are just going to make things worse. If he makes things worse here it will make them much worse for the rest of the world. If he puts in place protectionist trade policies like he has stated, you guys around the world that have hated Bush will wish you had him back in office. A weak America is not good for anyone from a political or economic standpoint. Obama had a perfect political storm blow him into office. Expectations for him are going to be high and if he fails to deliver he will go the way of Jimmy Carter. I’m waiting on my middle class tax cut. What are the odds I will ever see it? If I do see it there will be another tax imposed that takes it away. Also, watch what happens to the annual budget deficit now.


#4

America had a lot to be proud of, but the Bush years did a lot of damage to its reputation in the world…dragged it to maybe to lowest it has ever been.

That America elected a black man with little experience in order to oust the Republicans shows exactly how they feel about this, so I expect they will support him.

This man has a reasonable chance to restore some of this…but he has a lot of work to do. America can be proud of this choice.

:clap:


#5

[QUOTE=deanimator;2151992]America had a lot to be proud of, but the Bush years did a lot of damage to its reputation in the world…dragged it to maybe to lowest it has ever been.

That America elected a black man with little experience in order to oust the Republicans shows exactly how they feel about this, so I expect they will support him.

This man has a reasonable chance to restore some of this…but he has a lot of work to do. America can be proud of this choice.

:clap:[/QUOTE]

Don’t delude yourself too much. As quickly as Obama was voted in he can be voted out. Being black has little to do with the reason he won. Any Democrat would have likely done the same. Americans will expect results from this guy and he had better deliver on his promises or we will see someone new elected in 2012. I didn’t vote for Obama but I still want him to be successful. If he isn’t then this country is going to be in horrible shape. He has a chance to do wonderful things but I hope he doesn’t let the far left liberals ruin his opportunities.


#6

I am glad he won personally. Some ask why I want such a socialist place and to be honest I can’t really see that being too bad of a thing as look at other countries like China and Japan they are what we call a social country and they are doing quite well. Maybe I am diluted but there is always hope for change. Obama won a lot of white collared communities where they are Bush advocates before. People want change and there is no change to those that want to follow and continue Bush’s policies which is for the rich. What we need to do on taxes is have a flat tax I bet that would balance out well in time. I hate taxes and where I live we have a 50 cent gas tax per gallon which sucks.


#7

[QUOTE=zap em;2151964]GUY’S
BARRACK OBAMA is now president elect, and
I feel that stupidity continues on the part of some AMERICANS.
A lot of people voted on emotion instead of logic.
First of all let me say out front I think it’s a greaty idea
that a minority has become president. The problem?
This man has no experience in being a leader. His votes
in the senate were mostly abstentions. So would I trust
this guy with the nuclear codes?. Myself no. I only
hope that when he bungles it. The AMERICAN people
will see more clearly the mistake they made.
ZAP.:(:([/QUOTE]

A zap 'em divided…

He has yet to even take a seat in the Oval Office and you already have pessimistic expectations. As much I personally disliked Bush, he had my full support until it was obvious he was not making the right decisions for this country, which was near the end of his first term/the beginning of his second.

I’m not sure where you got the majority of his senate votes were abstentions; only 3% of his votes were “present.” He voted 3,000 other times that were more than just a “present.”

Stupidity? Because we exercised our right to vote for who we wanted, a man that isn’t shortsighted and hot-tempered and that doesn’t see military force as the answer to every global disagreement? Those nuke codes you mention, Obama is much less likely to need.

Regardless, in 2 and 1/2 months he will take office, and I urge some of the more stubborn citizens of America to give him their support. This country will not be successful if we continue to be ignorant in the refusal to do so.


#8

Dr. Who, with all due respect you are the type of person I don’t understand. You hate high taxes but you are for socialism. Socialism is built on massive taxing of the public across the board. Is it you want low taxes for yourself and high taxes for the successful people? Have you ever received a paycheck from a poor person? How much of the tax burden can we shift onto the successful people before they just decide it isn’t worth the effort to work hard and be successful? The current tax burden is already overwhelmingly placed on the these people. The plain and simple truth is that any person that receives a refund check that didn’t pay income tax is really getting a welfare check. If Obama does what he has proposed HALF of this country’s workers will be on welfare. It is an economic disaster in the making of biblical proportions. When the liberals can’t squeeze any more money from the rich where do you think they will get it next? Who is left? It is people like you and I they will be coming after.

jhtalisman, Obama is the president of all of us. As such, we all have the right to be critical and expect him to do what is right for the country. I expect him to do what he promised. That is a tax cut for 95% of us, a balanced federal budget, a safe America, to fight terrorism, give us a strong/stable economy etc. He has made a lot of promises to a lot of people and I will hold him accountable. We will know his true self in the first two years. I’ll give him a chance to win me over. I want him to win me over. He and the Democrats can no longer blame Bush. In fact they can’t blame anyone but them selves for at least the next two years. They had better deliver or the Republicans are going to politically crucify them in the 2010 elections.


#9

Here’s how I see it. Remember the movie Lean On Me? Crazy Joe? Obama reminds me of him. His ways may seem questionable but at the end it all worked out and people saw when they opened their eyes what this amazing principle did. Remember that this movie was based on a true story as well. So those that are pessimist give it a chance as we may not see what he can do and will be glad he did do it when it is done.


#10

[QUOTE=UTR;2152010]Dr. Who, with all due respect you are the type of person I don’t understand. You hate high taxes but you are for socialism. Socialism is built on massive taxing of the public across the board. Is it you want low taxes for yourself and high taxes for the successful people? Have you ever received a paycheck from a poor person? How much of the tax burden can we shift onto the successful people before they just decide it isn’t worth the effort to work hard and be successful? The current tax burden is already overwhelmingly placed on the these people. The plain and simple truth is that any person that receives a refund check that didn’t pay income tax is really getting a welfare check. If Obama does what he has proposed HALF of this country’s workers will be on welfare. It is an economic disaster in the making of biblical proportions. When the liberals can’t squeeze any more money from the rich where do you think they will get it next? Who is left? It is people like you and I they will be coming after.[/QUOTE]

Sorry but I still think that there should be a flat tax meaning what the average joe pays so does the wealthy as where it has been it was let the wealthy get richer by not taxing as much and it will trickle down onto us and this doesn’t happen. We have socialism in every other country except here. I can however see your point but I think that the rich should not get a tax break due to their status in life and be treated the same as the common joe. Socialism has already occurred with the "oh no the banks are going to close so let’s help them. We as Americans have been struggling for at least 3 years and what did we get a measly 300-1200 dollar check that just went on bills or gas in the car cause we were about to fall under. They gave these checks in hopes that we Americans would just go out and spend but the checks were too small and far too late. So as you see a form of socialism has already started and we will head this way or America will turn against each other I feel. I am optimistic and I don’t work as I am disabled so I do depend on my Wife to work and provide insurance for us and I don’t condone that the government raise her premiums just so the welfare can get free health care and such as well.


#11

GUY’S
A lot of you are saying give the guy a chance?
Okay I will but I still think were getting an empty
suit. As for BIDEN? The picture I post will say it all
ZAP.:Z:(



#12

Can we all just get back to being CDFreaks now…


#13

[QUOTE=Bob;2152023]Can we all just get back to being CDFreaks now…[/QUOTE]

:clap: :bow:

Well said.


#14

[QUOTE=Dr. Who;2152015]Sorry but I still think that there should be a flat tax meaning what the average joe pays so does the wealthy as where it has been it was let the wealthy get richer by not taxing as much and it will trickle down onto us and this doesn’t happen. We have socialism in every other country except here. I can however see your point but I think that the rich should not get a tax break due to their status in life and be treated the same as the common joe. Socialism has already occurred with the "oh no the banks are going to close so let’s help them. We as Americans have been struggling for at least 3 years and what did we get a measly 300-1200 dollar check that just went on bills or gas in the car cause we were about to fall under. They gave these checks in hopes that we Americans would just go out and spend but the checks were too small and far too late. So as you see a form of socialism has already started and we will head this way or America will turn against each other I feel. I am optimistic and I don’t work as I am disabled so I do depend on my Wife to work and provide insurance for us and I don’t condone that the government raise her premiums just so the welfare can get free health care and such as well.[/QUOTE]

Here is the current tax burden by income level:

We can’t continue to put an increasing tax burden on the higher income groups without eventually breaking their backs or forcing them to take their money out of the country. We will also see foreign investment dry up and this will collapse our economy. Socialism doesn’t work in its pure form. The Soviet Union and many other socialist countries have shown this to be true the past 100 years. Socialism stifles the incentive for people to innovate and work hard. Why should I work hard when it only gets me very little over someone that doesn’t work hard and expects handouts from the government? If enough people decide that working hard doesn’t pay then they won’t be creating enough new jobs or remain competitive with other countries. It is this apathy that destroys societies from the inside out. If you are truly for a flat tax applied to EVERYONE then you aren’t for socialism. I am for helping those that truly need it but the bottom 50% of wage earners aren’t people that truly need help. Anyone looking for handouts from the wealthy are just speeding up their own demise, IMO, and making a very unpleasant future for our children.


#15

[QUOTE=Bob;2152023]Can we all just get back to being CDFreaks now…[/QUOTE]

I never stopped. :wink:


#16

[quote=dr. Who;2152024]:clap: :bow:

Well said.[/quote]

please


#17

Great responses to the OP
While I didn’t vote for Barack, he is now the President-Elect and has my full support. I think there is a reasonable chance that this man can begin the process of healing in the US that is so badly wanted and needed.
As with any recovery, this is an essential early step.

Barack is far from stupid. First off, this man is extremely articulate, polished and a very effective communicator. He looks and acts presidential…how badly is this needed for starters?..look at the last 8 years!

The downside is his lack of experience, particularly when compared to McCain. This is one of the primary reasons he did not get my vote, but experience certainly is not the end-all and be-all.

Here is the Murray-Blessing 1982 survey of conservative and liberal historians of the most popular presidents.
Pretty darn close, aren’t they?
[B]Take note of the “executive experience”[/B]

[I][B] Rank Liberals (n=190)… Conservatives (n=50)[/B]

1 Lincoln… Lincoln

2 Franklin Roosevelt… Washington

3 Washington… Franklin Roosevelt

4 Jefferson… Jefferson

5 Theodore Roosevelt … Theodore Roosevelt

6 Wilson… Jackson

7 Jackson… Truman

8 Truman… Wilson

9 LB Johnson… Eisenhower

10 John Adams… John Adams

The number one spot by Libs and Cons was Lincoln. Lincoln had no executive experience upon assuming the presidency. His political experience being in the state legislature

Number 2 on the conservative list and number 3 on the liberal list was Washington. He had no executive experience prior to assuming the presidency. His political experience being in local legislative and judicial positions.

Number 2 on the liberal list and number 3 on the conservative list is FDR. He had no executive experience before assuming the presidency. His experience was in state legislature.

Number 4 on both lists is Thomas Jefferson. His only executive experience was as governor of Virginia for 2 years.

Number 5 on both lists is Theodore Roosevelt. His only executive experience was 2 years as governor of New York.

Number 6 on the conservative list and 7 on the liberal list is Andrew Jackson. He had no executive experience prior to becoming president. His experience was in federal legislature.

Number 6 on the liberal list and 8 on the conservative list was Woodrow Wilson. Wilson had 2 years experience as governor of New Jersey.

Number 7 on the conservative list and 8 on the liberal list is Truman. Truman had no executive experience prior to assuming the presidency.

number 9 on the liberal list is LBJ. LBJ had no executive experience prior to assuming the presidency. All in federal legislative branch.

number 9 on the conservative list is Eisenhower. Eisenhower had zero executive experience prior to assuming the presidency.

Number 10 on both lists is John Adams. John Adams had no executive experience before becoming president.

There you have it. The top 11 presidents with a sum total of 6 years executive experience.[/I]

In any case, Barack waged a brilliant campaign and he was elected…[B]fairly[/B].
People vote for their 'President " for all kinds of reasons, logical and illogical, and always have.
I don’t think there’s much to be gained by pointing fingers.
This divisiveness has done much to damage the country.
It needs to end and end now.

He certainly has a tough road ahead and as stated above, he will have to produce results.
Let’s give him his honeymoon period here before he takes the reins.

I, for one, can’t wait to see what he does when he assumes the Oval Office and whom he appoints to the big 4 Cabinet posts…Treasury, Defense, State and Attorney General.


#18

[QUOTE=zap em;2152020]GUY’S
A lot of you are saying give the guy a chance?
Okay I will but I still think were getting an empty
suit. As for BIDEN? The picture I post will say it all
ZAP.:Z:([/QUOTE]

Allot of the young people who have lofty expectations of this new administration, obviously aren’t old enough to remember the economy of the late 70s. Obama will be the most liberal President since Jimmy Carter. I predict that he’ll be removed in four years. I also predict that the Republicans will gain seats in 2010 after two years of this administration, and a Democrat run congress. Lets just be thankful that they didn’t win the super majority. Though the republicans in the Senate need to get a backbone, real quick. To stand up against what is sure to be, an aggressive agenda led by Reid/Pulosi.


#19

INCLAN,
Well said that’s exactly my point. Those of us
old enough to remember JIMMY CARTER,and especially
those of us who were in the AIR FORCE. We pretty much
know that PRESIDENT OBAMA is a snake oil salesman. I
think the anger with BUSH,and what pushed independents
to vote for BARRACK was anger over the stock market and
the economy. We had two democratic PRESIDENTS the
past recent decades who all promised hope/change for
the common man and like you said none of their programs
worked.
ZAP.:iagree::iagree:



#20

Don’t know much about Obama myself, but I caught his victory speech last night (this morning over here!) and I’d just like to say that it’s nice to see that you’ve got a president who can find a coherent sentence without using both hands and a flashlight!

As to the rest, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see, but if he meant anything that he said in his speech then good luck to him.

Sláinte

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