Power failure or what!?

Lately I’ve encountered bluescreens, hangs and self-reboot with my PC!!


the following is the system info :-

Processor
Model : Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.40GHz
Speed : 2.41GHz
Performance Rating : PR2653 (estimated)
Type : Standard
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous ATC (8-way sectored, 64 byte line size)

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : No
MP APIC : Yes
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : i845
Total Memory : 1535MB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GV Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (A1-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 1536MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : Default Monitor
Monitor/Panel : Plug and Play Monitor
Adapter : RADEON 9100 SERIES

Physical Storage Devices
Removable Drive : Floppy disk drive
Hard Disk : IBM-DTLA-307045 (42.9GB)
Hard Disk : Maxtor 34098H4 (38.2GB)
Hard Disk : MAXTOR 6L080J4 (74.6GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW (CD 48X Rd, 48X Wr) (DVD 6X Rd, 6X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : Generic DVD-ROM SCSI CdRom Device (CD 32X Rd) (DVD 4X Rd)

Peripherals
Serial/Parallel Port(s) : 8 COM / 1 LPT
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C4
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C7
USB Controller/Hub : Intel® 82801DB/DBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24CD
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
USB Controller/Hub : USB Root Hub
Keyboard : Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse : HID-compliant mouse
Human Interface : HID-compliant consumer control device
Human Interface : Bluetooth HID Enum Device
Human Interface : USB Human Interface Device

MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : YAMAHA DS-XG PCI Audio CODEC (WDM)

Communication Device(s)
Device : Bluetooth Fax Modem
Device : Bluetooth DUN Modem
Device : Bluetooth LAP Modem
Device : Bluetooth LAP Modem #2

Power Management
AC Line Status : On-Line

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 1)

Network Services
Adapter : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC #2


You don’t list your power supply; I would guess that is the problem.

Here is a decent site for calculating your needs.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/

Test your memory sticks B 4 you buy a power supply. Its free

thx guys,

actually i haven’t finish posting the info yet, but then my machine hanged. And when i restarted it for a few times, there were no display!! I was thinking to myself, finally!! But then after about 10 minutes, now, it’s back on!!

I still not sure if it’s the display card or not!! Cause i did run some benchmarking, but it seemed fine!!


more info on mainboard :-

SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
Manufacturer : Jetway
MP Support : No
Model : i845
System BIOS : 07/03/2002-i845-6A69VJ1DC-00
Chipset : Intel 845 (Brookdale)

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 2
Maximum Installable Memory : 2GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 1024MB/64
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM Synchronous SDRAM 512MB/64

Chipset 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GV Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (A1-step)
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI IMB USB i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 134MHz (536MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 133MHz / 2x 166MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 8 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.50
Number of Ports : 1
Width : 8-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 1/1x

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 1CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 1CMD
Bank 2 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 1CMD
Bank 3 : 256MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-6CL 1CMD
Speed : 2x 134MHz (268MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Width : 64-bit
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module(s)
Memory Module 1 : Corsair VS1GB400C3 1024MB 16x(64Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC3200U-333-700 (CL3 up to 200MHz)
Memory Module 2 : Kingston 88196664 512MB 16x(32Mx8) DDR-SDRAM PC3200U-333-650 (CL3 up to 200MHz) (CL2.5 up to 167MHz) (CL2 up to 133MHz)

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Winbond W83627(T)HF ISA
Version : 2.01
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 29.0°C / 84.2°F
CPU Temperature : 37.5°C / 99.5°F td
Power / Aux Temperature : 54.0°C / 129.2°F

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
Chassis Fan Speed : 2519rpm
CPU Fan Speed : 2163rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.46V
Aux Voltage : 1.50V
+3.3V Voltage : 3.20V
+5V Voltage : 4.95V
+12V Voltage : 11.49V
-12V Voltage : -11.87V
-5V Voltage : 3.50V
Standby Voltage : 4.85V
Battery Voltage : 3.17V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.00
Speed : 4x
Multiplier : 1/2x
Fast-Writes Enabled : Yes
Side Band Enabled : Yes
Aperture Size : 64MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.20
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 2 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

USB Controller 1
Model : Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL USB UHCI Controller #1 (ICH4/ICH4-L A1 step)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL USB UHCI Controller #2 (ICH4/ICH4-L A1 step)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL USB UHCI Controller #3 (ICH4/ICH4-L A1 step)
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : Intel Corporation USB 2.0 EHCI Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus
Version : 0.01
Specification : 1.00
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No
Speed : 100kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GV Brookdale Host to AGP Bridge (A1-step))
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (PowerColor (C.P. Technology Co Ltd) Radeon 9100 Series (R200))

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB : USB - None / None
USB : USB - None / None

I really hope it’s not the power supply, cause i’m using a VAIO case, and i don’t think i can get a new power unit without getting a new case!! And I’m still not sure it’s the power supply, cause i have been usng it on the current setting (3 harddisks & a dvd burner) for almost a year. Also, nothing happens when i do stress test!! I mean all 3 harddisks were doing “Butterfly seek test” for more than 15 min at the same time and nothing happened. And i did remove one of the harddisks, but that didn’t help.

I did use Fix-It to do the memory tests, that took at least an hour!! And the cpu was running at 99%. And i also did run memtest awhile ago!!

I’m worrying that it could be the mainboard! I can kinda simulate the hanging by watching divx/rmvb, or run a disc check with my USB LiteOn.

Well, i guess i’m clueless :confused:

We still need the watts on your power supply.

chas0039, sorry for not stating the watts until now, cause u’ll be surprised… If i don’t remember wrong, i think the watts of the PSU is 225. Before u start to ^%$^%, I just want to clarify a few things. I’m not a electronic guy, i’m more like a creative programming guy, lol!! The PSU comes with the case, and it’s specially made for the case, cause it’s Sony VAIO. From the fact my electronic friend told me that the PSU in +12V provides 16amp (or whatever the unit is). It should provides enough power for at least 2 harddisks and 2 roms/burners. And the case has all the space for them even though the mainboard has to be a microATX.

Anyway, I did clean up all the dust from the computer on Fri night, and i did find some light brown stuff on some capacitors near the CPU!! After reading " Hardware problems, how to check?", i guess those are the leaking capacitors!? I did clean them up, and the brown stuff came off quite easily!! So, have i find the problem or not?

225 watts is rather low for 3 hard discs as well as everything else. See the web link above for recommended power needed. If you do have leaking capacitors, you need to contact your manufacturer and see if there is a recall. Quite a few recent class action suits have been the result of this problem. Cleaning up the leaks does not fix things.

thx chas0039,

but i thought the leaking should be quite hard to clean!! Anyway, is “Power / Aux Temperature : 54.0°C” too hot?

I guess i will starting searching for a new mainboard, any suggestion for a microATX - socket478, i865G, SPDIF-out and at least 3 DDR Dim!!

BTW, looked at your favorite scan, FANTASTIC!!

@ totalz,

There are numerous computer hardware components that could cause your problem. Sometimes it is difficult and time consuming to troubleshoot the problem.

There is a software utility program called PassMark BurnIn Test (http://www.passmark.com/products/bit.htm) that tests all your hardware components to ensure that they are working properly. It will test your hardware components and provide a status report and tells you what if any hardware is suspect.

I have used this in the past to troubleshoot a similar problem in one of my computers and PassMark BurnIn Test reveled a suspect hardware component. I change the suspect component and haven’t had any problems since with computer.

Best Regards,
bjkg

that 54C temp and this “+12V Voltage : 11.49V”
look real bad!

rbrtpl, can u give a little bit more explanation?

thx bjkg for the link :slight_smile:

Leave the side off the case, disconnect case fans, extra hard drives.
Point a small room fan into the case, try to get the computer to screw up.
you filled all the ram slots and pci slots

One of the quickest way to screw my PC up is to run CDCheck on any dvd with my LiteOn dvd burner (USB).

Does the computer POST then the blue screen?

Your temp is too high and your 12v is too far out of spec (can be caused by overloading a power supply). What is the exact model of your computer?

If you do have leaking cap’s, they could be the problem. There was a crap load of bad caps between 1999 and 2002. They were taiwanese caps. If you search google, you will see numerous problems described in mother boards, dell systems that were recalled, and numerous other electronics. I just found some bad caps in my onkyo dvd player which is only two years, old, and I’m currently sending the info from the technician who repaired it, along with the web information about the bad caps, to onkyo to see how much they are going to kick in for the repair. In my instance, the bad caps would not allow the unit to power up beyond standbye mode. As my unit was a refurb, and it wasn’t purchased until 2003, they should have replaced the bad caps, but did not…

@CCRomeo
hmmm, what’s POST stands for?

@ripit
exact model… Well, the case(psu) is probably the previous previous model of VAIO PC. But i just find out that MagicPro(brand of my mainboard) is kinda famous for busting cap.

@harley2ride
thx for the info… what do u think of the Dell case, cause i kind of have an option to buy a Dell case that comes with a mainboard with chipset i865G. So i can solve both problems, even though i’m still not very sure does the current psu is causing problem at all!!