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#1084

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZD9575-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA16LJ08093119 5
Burn Speed: 18x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1085

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZD9575-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA16LJ08093117 5
Burn Speed: 16x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1086

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZD9575-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA16LJ08093116 5
Burn Speed: 12x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1087

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZD9575-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA16LJ08093114 3
Burn Speed: 8x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1088

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZD9575-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA16LJ08093113 2
Burn Speed: 6x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1089

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201613 4
Burn Speed: 18x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1090

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201612 1
Burn Speed: 16x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1091

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201511 5
Burn Speed: 12x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1092

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201510 2
Burn Speed: 8x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1093

Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201509 4
Burn Speed: 6x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50


#1094

Holy cow – I don’t think I’ve seen anything that clean. Did you do something special in your setup to get these results?

Also: I’m unclear on how Opti Drive Control calculates “average” PIE. I you take the total PIE errors (6085) and divide by the number of seconds (11:13 x 60 = 673), you get 6085/673 = , you get about 9.04, not 0.34. Any idea what that’s about?

Also: Is there some reason you didn’t post the PI /PO results from Plextools Pro XL 3.16 (PTPXL 3.16)?

Thanks in advance.

– Roy Zider


#1095

[QUOTE=FUBARinSFO;2611984]Holy cow – I don’t think I’ve seen anything that clean. Did you do something special in your setup to get these results?

Also: I’m unclear on how Opti Drive Control calculates “average” PIE. I you take the total PIE errors (6085) and divide by the number of seconds (11:13 x 60 = 673), you get 6085/673 = , you get about 9.04, not 0.34. Any idea what that’s about?

Also: Is there some reason you didn’t post the PI /PO results from Plextools Pro XL 3.16 (PTPXL 3.16)?

Thanks in advance.

– Roy Zider[/QUOTE]

Nope, I didn’t do anything special, just luck of the draw. As for the PIE averages, I’m guessing it’s calculating them based on the ECC blocks. As for not using PTPXL3.16, it just takes too darn long.


#1096

[QUOTE=Two Degrees;2612007]Nope, I didn’t do anything special, just luck of the draw. As for the PIE averages, I’m guessing it’s calculating them based on the ECC blocks. As for not using PTPXL3.16, it just takes too darn long.[/QUOTE]

PTPXL 3.16 does indeed take a while – about 30 mins for a normal DVD, 55 mins for a DVD+/-R DL.

Can you PM or email me? I have a request to make of you.

– Roy Zider


#1097

[QUOTE=Two Degrees;2609991]Burner: PX-760SA TLA #0103
Firmware: 1.07
Media: Verbatim 16x DVD+R (MIT)
MID: MCC 004
Stamper Code: ZE2136-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAP679MJ24201511 5
Burn Speed: 12x
AutoStrategy: Auto
PowerRec: On
Burning Software: Opti Drive Control 1.50[/QUOTE]

Hi:

Your tests on this burn seem to show a difference among drives used to read the burn, is that right?

The test with the iHAS524 looks very uniform, but the read with the DW1655 is irregular, and the PIE increases with reading radius. That would show a difference in the drives? Or is there still some media effect? You are using the same media here for your tests, it appears (MCC 004 (000))

But increasing error rate on the DW1655 doesn’t seem to hold across all your tests. So I’m wondering how you tease out the difference between the burn/media quality and the drive itself.

– Roy Zider


#1098

[QUOTE=FUBARinSFO;2612092]Hi:

Your tests on this burn seem to show a difference among drives used to read the burn, is that right?

The test with the iHAS524 looks very uniform, but the read with the DW1655 is irregular, and the PIE increases with reading radius. That would show a difference in the drives? Or is there still some media effect? You are using the same media here for your tests, it appears (MCC 004 (000))

But increasing error rate on the DW1655 doesn’t seem to hold across all your tests. So I’m wondering how you tease out the difference between the burn/media quality and the drive itself.

– Roy Zider[/QUOTE]

I use scans of the same disc read in different drives to get an overall view of the burn quality. BenQ drives seem to be the least forgiving while drives using MediaTek chipsets (Lite-On and Samsung) give the lowest error rates, with Plextor Sanyo drives generally falling somewhere inbetween. But as long as all scans show error rates well within the specs, it gets a “pass” from me. If just one drive shows lots of errors, you can chalk that up to the individual drive just not liking that particular disc.


#1099

[QUOTE=Two Degrees;2612188]I use scans of the same disc read in different drives to get an overall view of the burn quality. [/QUOTE]

Yes, that’s what I’m stepping through now, as you’ve done. It is very tedious.

But my interest is not just local. I send media to clients that has to be bullet-proof, so ‘within specs’ isn’t close enough. I can’t deal with the problem of the client not being able to read my media, or having read problems. I have to be able to assert with confidence that the burned data was far within spec when I burned and tested it. That will eliminate one source of problem and frustration, with the meter running on both ends while we wrangle over optical media read errors.

That’s why I found your systematic tests so useful – because with that sort of stepping through the different test drives you can identify the causes of poor burns and eliminate the unit or media from your immediate use.


#1100

I’d chalk it up more to media variability than failing hardware, especially these days when profit margins are so low on optical media. The quality has gone down considerably even on the high quality media like Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim.


#1101

All the more reason to have reference media to be able separate the media from the burner.


#1102

JVC 8x DVD+R (Premium)
YUDEN T02 (MIJ)
TG000041, HG128A301299PG
PX-760A 1.07
AutoStrategy On
PoweRec Off
Burned at 4x


#1103

[QUOTE=jadburner;2620009]JVC 8x DVD+R (Premium)
YUDEN T02 (MIJ)
TG000041, HG128A301299PG
PX-760A 1.07
AutoStrategy On
PoweRec Off
Burned at 4x[/QUOTE]

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