Plextor PX 716A - Bad Vibrations

vbimport
#1

Hi All (My first post )!

About 2 weeks ago i buy a Plextor 716 ( TLA#0202 ), install, turn on computer, recognized by OS XP, Nero Tools, CloneCd etc, but it was Dead!
Nothing works. Simply couldn`t read, or record…

Back to RMA. Receive a new one. Install it, power On and i hear a strange noise inside, something breacking…bad Start i thought…
But it Works! Fast rippings, fast burns…but…

The unit makes a lot of noise and vibrations!, especialy at 8x DVD record or CD`s 32x…the first minutes, all my case ( Antec 1000 AMG + Watercooling inside ) vibrates likes a damm V…:wink:

Sometimes the noise/vibrations are less, sometimes higher! Burning 3 MCC 004 ( Verbatim 16x ) at Max speed, is less noising that at 8x!!

Anywhay, i use CloneDVD and Nero to burn. Plextools DMA on, PR ON, AS on, Silent Mode On…no conflits anywhere… :wink:
My best burn was on a Memorex at 4x ( MBIPG101R03 Moeser Baer India Limited ), with a PI only 16 with Q-Check Pi PO test…
Q-Check TA test : Very Good-Very Good -Very Good

I have also a Plextor 48x, but recording the same media at 32x, has no comparation in noise and vibration! :frowning:

I dont think the unit works bad in making records DVD, but isn`t normal…all this vibrations…you are the specialists…should a stay with this unit? :o

Just more informations: The Verbatim DL 2.4 record at 4x give me on Q-Check Pi PO test a litle “coast?” at midle of 24…the rest under 20! :cool:

Please sorry my bad english or stupid question/afirmation! :stuck_out_tongue:

My Best Regards, All,

My Specs:
Abit NF7 S 2.0 Bios d26-mantarays-xt
AMD XP-M 2500+ 45W 2700 MHz 1.95V
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Winbond 2x 256 ( FSB 12 x 225=450 ) 2.3.3.11 -2.8v
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Antec 1000
Eihem 1046
Gexcube 9600XTG AGP:1.6v Core: @580 Mhz Memory @700 Mhz+Tweak Monsters_+_VGA Silencer
Plextor 48x + Plextor PX716A(TLA#0203) + LG DVD 16xDRD 8160D

#2

Vibrations can’t be good, but they can be caused by the media. Do you have any MCC (Verbatim) or TY media to check? There should have been at least 1 sample packaged with your drive of Plextor media–that should not vibrate when reading at high speed.

#3

Hi Beeder!

Well i never use TY…but i use MCC, and the vibes remain…especialy recording at 8x!
The first 2, 3 minutes, sometimes i think the unit will break down!!
My previous machine was a Lite-On 832, and there is no comparation betwheen the 2 machines…much more quiet, the Lite-On…

The Media i normaly use around here is Verbatim, Memorex, TDK and some Ritek G04…
I must confess that the unit with the time, is making just a litle less noise/Vibes…but they still remain…and the Record´s, seems dont be affectted by this…that`s why i stil keep the unity…

I read somewhere( Zevia ) did open the unit and move same kind of screw inside, and the unit became ok…but i`not shure the problem was the same…

Ripping DVDs on DL is quiet in did all very fast..9x.. :D The problem remains, on records at 8x on the first minutes... :a Lots of noise, vibrations. For instance you put your hand on the top of the Antec 1000 ( Steel Made! ) and you feel the all unit shacking!
The problem is that the Plextor, ( I think ) dam works well apart that! :rolleyes:
I was only hoping someone did/do experience some problem…taking that of…its a very good unit...not cheaper, but with lots of potencial …
Maybe i should goo Nooby section… :iagree:

P.S. -All ( 3 burned )  MCC  004 , were record under 20 Pi, except last

96% increasing until reach a max of 90/120. :stuck_out_tongue:
- Some improve needed here… :wink:

 TKS the replay and attention!
#4

Hi Beeder!

Well i never use TY…but i use MCC, and the vibes remain…especialy recording at 8x!
The first 2, 3 minutes, sometimes i think the unit will break down!!
My previous machine was a Lite-On 832, and there is no comparation betwheen the 2 machines…much more quiet, the Lite-On…

The Media i normaly use around here is Verbatim, Memorex, TDK and some Ritek G04…
I must confess that the unit with the time, is making just a litle less noise/Vibes…but they still remain…and the Record´s, seems dont be affectted by this…that`s why i stil keep the unity…

I read somewhere( Zevia ) did open the unit and move same kind of screw inside, and the unit became ok…but i`not shure the problem was the same…

Ripping DVDs on DL is quiet in did all very fast..9x.. :D The problem remains, on records at 8x on the first minutes... :a Lots of noise, vibrations. For instance you put your hand on the top of the Antec 1000 ( Steel Made! ) and you feel the all unit shacking!
The problem is that the Plextor, ( I think ) dam works well apart that! :rolleyes:
I was only hoping someone did/do experience some problem…taking that of…its a very good unit...not cheaper, but with lots of potencial …
Maybe i should goo Nooby section… :iagree:

P.S. -All ( 3 burned )  MCC  004 , were record under 20 Pi, except last

96% increasing until reach a max of 90/120. :stuck_out_tongue:
- Some improve needed here… :wink:

 P.S. No media came inside the "Big"
 TKS the replay and attention! :( box..only the DVD Plextools and IDE cable...
#5

despite your success, i would RMA or exchange for another unit…heavy vibrations aren’t a good sign.

#6

I also have the Antec 1000 AMG case. I haven’t noticed excessive vibration. You might want to tighten the screws on the plastic drive rails and make sure the rails are holding the drive in a snug fit in the case.

-ImBAD

#7

my drive makes only a clicking noise, if i put a dvd or cd in it!i think thats the spindel motor!
its not quite silent the drive at the burning.

#8

OC-Freak had the same problem with his drive. There is a small plastic thing in drive that can become loose during shipment. You have to open the drive and put it back into place. But, since opening your drive voids your warranty the only option you have is to RMA the drive (again)! If it’s the same problem as OC-Freak had then tightening the screws won’t make any difference. Contact Plextor and tell them about your problem and you know what’s causing it. Perhaps they can do something for you (although they will probably just exchange the drive). Good luck!

#9

do you hear that plasctic thing, if you shake the drive?

#10

Sorry, I don’t know since my drive didn’t have that problem. If OC-Freak reads this he will answer it I’m sure :wink:

#11

I also started hearing vibrations. It began only a couple of days ago and it can only be heard if it slows down before stopping.

#12

@erdoke
the same as mine.before stopping and at the beginning.sounds like the start from a liteon burner.

so i think its normal

#13

I wouldn’t say I’m happy if it’s normal… :frowning:

#14

You are all Amazing!

I original thought that this could be only a problem of my drive, kind of innocent one, but it seems, that there is feedback, from users…infortunaly!

The plastics of Antec are well tight. ( I`m also a Overcloker, kind take, put, take off many components, etc… :cool: ).

What can i say, is that when i start the power suply of my Enermax, ( after install he Plextor for first time ), i did hear something very strange noise, from inside, like breaking!!

At this moment, im recording a Backup on a Memorex -R at 4x with Clonecd, and i almost can year the unit, except on the first…say…25% of the starting!

G@M3FR3@K:

Since i dont want to loose the warranty, and there is feedback from others many users with, maybe the same problem, i would like to ask, if possible, of course, a picture of that "piece" of plastic, where it should belows! :D I´m a Overcloker, and i have made many crazy things to the hardware, but since this a very Specific problem, some pictures, or more information could help. I would do it, as much i now exactly what im a doing! :iagree:

The Vibrations / noise are more hight on the Begining of the burning, becaming at the end almost none…so i presuming that it isn`t such bad think, i hope… :confused:

When a have a better chance, i will turn off the machine and will try " Shack up and down" the unit off the Antec, to find some strange noise…

Thank you all. In search for the truth! :bow: ( O. again, sorry the bad w. english…)

#15

Your English is perfectly understandable! I will send OC-Freak a message and ask him if he can tell us the details on that small plastic part inside the drive. He has fixed it himself quite easily I know but as said before, if you open your drive it will void your warranty so I strongly recommend you RMA the drive… Good luck!

#16

Hi, the noise with my drive was only noticeable at low speeds - like when using plextools for error testing (reading at 2x speed). I have some images at home - let’s see if I could post those later.

But I do not recommend opening the drive as that woids the warranty, I did it becuase RMA’ing it would probably take 2 weeks at the time I got it (distributors sold out and RMA’ing it throug plextor also takes damn long time). So I contacted plextor through the cdfreaks contact person and he came up with the idea to check this, so I opened mine and fixed it myself to be able to help G@M3FR3@K with the review.

That construction is very poor and weak - the worst I’ve seen, no other drives I’ve seen has such a poor construction - Not even cheap drives like Lite-On.

#17

That blows the review… :eek: :bigsmile:

#18

OC-Freak Thanks!!

Its too bad that the " inside " of Plextor, doesnt have good construction!
I`m quiete suprised. Such hight $$$ should include the best hardware material…:-((

Tonight, i will try to “shake” the Plextor, for some loose piece of equipment…too bad i don`t have X-Ray vision of Superman!:))

My worse bad sounds/Vib are done at 8x, first 12% of starting the Record and the “first Spinnig”, but, strangly, when ripping a DL at say, 9x, it works very well…quiete strange!

Thank you all once more for the Help. ( Double post again…:frowning: )

#19

Here is a picture showing the problem. The plastic pieces the arrows aims at has to be pushed out to the left (in this case, depends on what direction you hold the drive in) until it pops back in place again and is straight, not bent out like here.

This is the reply I got from plextor:

Strange and big sound, vibration from inside the drive, Our engineer has studied about this and restaged the phenomenon. As the comment from engineer, this might be caused by that the sub chassis will be swerved from body of the drive. Please find the attached file and you can see the photograph of them, the sub chassis is swerved

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#20

OC-Freak Thanks! :bow:

I think that will be a very good help to all users, with the “maybe” same problem!
Moments ago, i did turn off the PC, take of the Plextor from the case, and i did shake it!
Well, i didn`t feel any small piece, loose or something like that…but the all “corp” or the structure inside, seems to be not very tight to the chassy or metal external box.
That´s my best opinion…and of course very subjective :iagree:

But, even so i will keep the unit. Its to becaming like the wine....better! :bow: And that include my concernings with the "Vibes and Sounds"....from the begining of the tread! I must confess, im very pleased with the fast, answers done by you all!
In quality, and quantity! :bow:
I will keep send my best/worse tests of media, made by me, in order to help everbody, to understand, improve, share the use of this model.
That`s my best contribute!

Tks,