From what I've seen here, and especially the initial reviews, I don't think the 716 measures up. The NECs and the BenQs can burn a variety of 16x media at 16x and do it with good quality. I don't understand why the 716 has a problem with this, and they still have a problem with it. For those reasons, I never got one and I'm sorry you got eventually failed.
Yes the Plextor worked great out of the box
My 712 didn't. POFs (coasters) on top quality media. I RMA'd it about a month after I got it. Total turnaround time between me sending it in and getting the replacement was 5 days. And it works.
only if it likes the media i buy. I only found 1 batch of Fuji that worked with it and it was Fuji DVD+R 8x with 100 blank disc pack. Well that batch lasted me 7 months, so I went out seeking more Fuji, but once i tried to use them I had nothing but coasters. I found out later they change the chemical texture or something to the newer Fuji disc.
It's true ... Fuji used to use Made in Japan Taiyo Yuden dyes, but now there's a possibility you also can get Ricohjpnr02 or Prodisc dyes. They just aren't in the same area code of top quality media that the TY stuff is.
The way to get around this, topgun68, is to buy the stuff with Taiyo Yuden's name (branded) right on the packaging. No Maxell (might be TY, might not), no Fuji (maybe, maybe not), but get the real deal. You'll find people in every hardware forum here who swear by TY and nothing else. It's a pain keeping up with media codes and lot numbers and Made In Xxxxx, but unfortunately certain burners like certain media, and none like them all. You're right that the 716 seems to be at least as picky as the competitors, which is unexpected given that it has that Autostrategy thing.
So it wouldnt work with my Plextor. So I went out and bought Sony DVD+R 8x, still no luck. So i bought Verbatim DVD+R 16x and still no luck. The same thing with Memorex and Maxwell. AND YES I HAD THE LATEST FIRMWARE INSTALLED. So I called up Plextor
Sounds reasonable so far; I would have too.
and they wanted me to do this unreal troubleshooting crap.
Yeah, the "diagnostic self-test" where you have to unplug the IDE cables, add a jumper, reboot, waste a piece of media, and wait half an hour. It really is a pain, especially in a tight case, but it runs the test absolutely independent of drivers, or Windows, or anything else that might cause trouble. If it fails, and yours sounded like it probably would, then you know for absolute certain that whatever's wrong is with the drive, and not anything on your computer. Maybe you already knew that, but I'm sure tech support gets a lot of calls from people with all kinds of crap installed on their computers and, yes, that's what's causing the problem.
I would have but after reading all the complaints in the Plextor forum about guys returning their Plextor after getting a RMA number from them, they had to send back their plextor 2 or 3 times untill they get one that works. So I figured instead pissing around without having a working burner for the next 2 or 3 month,
Fair enough, but if I had done that I would have screwed myself out of what turned out to be a pretty good replacement burner. And all it cost me was $8 to ship it. Considering how much I paid for it, I was totally unwilling to just write it off. BTW, my turnaround was 5 days, not 2 months, did I mention that? :bigsmile:
I'm with crossg ... considering what you paid, I'd toss in another few bucks and see what they send me. I don't know if I'd do it a 2nd (or 5th) time, though. And I don't know if I'd fully trust what I read here about the service. One guy was pissed off with an RMA horror story and started a thread for others to post their horror stories ... as it turns out, most of the stories were positive (click <a href="http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=136288&highlight=experiences" target="_blank">here</a>. But it is true that Plextor USA seemed to have the most problems.
i would just go out and buy a new DVD burner at a faction of the price. If you ask me $41 dollars for a new NEC 3540A OEM burner was a steal! What made me buy that brand and model was due to the review http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/214 posted by someone high up on this site. He gave it very high marks. So far my new NEC has burned every brand of media that didnt work on my Plextor.
I'm looking at the NEC3540 pr BenQ 1640 for my next one...seems Pioneer still have problems with their new 110 drive.
Not really sure why you guys got so offended
Not offended, I just feel if you pay for extra you should get extra.