PlexTools and CD-Extra

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#1

Is it possible to write a CD-EXTRA disc with PlexTools?

I ripped a CD-EXTRA disc to a Plextor image file (.pxi), but when I try to write the image, I get an error:

ID 0: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W4824A V1.03 (S/N:xxxxxx) (0.0.13A)
Read speed: 18-40X CAV, Jumper settings: 001, BURN-Proof enabled
Blank disc, CMC Magnetics Corporation (type 6), 79:59:71

CD Copy log
-----------
Selected write speed: 48 X

include: UPC: yes  ISRC: yes  CD+G: no
1st session only : no
Allow Overburning : yes   Leave Disc Open: no
Audio Error Detection : disabled
-Advanced error detection disabled
-Maximum errors   : unlimited
-Allow Speed Down : yes
Read Error Recovery Strategy : 5. Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector.

Start of simulation
Simulating Write Lead In
Simulating Write Track 1  Start: 00:00.00  Length: 13:52.57
Simulating Write Track 2  Start: 13:52.57  Length: 10:21.18
Simulating Write Track 3  Start: 24:14.00  Length: 09:32.47
Simulating Write Track 4  Start: 33:46.47  Length: 13:45.62
Simulating Write Track 5  Start: 47:32.34  Length: 06:45.73
Illegal request (code 052C00)

Closing session 1
Simulating Write Track 6  Start: 56:50.32  Length: 00:58.10
Write error at 56:50.32  Illegal request (code 052C00)  
Closing disc

I tried searching the forums but haven’t found any threads relating to this problem.

Does anyone know if there’s a resolution for this?

Thanks in advance!


#2

That’s weird ! Once again, there’s nothing wrong in my case :


PlexTools V1.19     Image Information
Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Plextor SA/NV
26 02 2003
-----------------------------------------------------

Software information
--------------------
Windows XP V5.01.2600 ASPI Manager: wnaspi32.dll version 4.60 (1021) 
( not used by PlexTools )
Description : ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL (Adaptec)

File : D:\Plextor WAVs\Absolute Benson.pxi


Type         : CD Extra
Label        : n/a
UPC/EAN      : 
Capacity     : 296387 sectors (65:51.62)
Tracks       : 11
MultiSession : yes
Disc Open    : no

Disc Title  : Absolute Benson
Disc Artist : George Benson

Track      Start    Length     Type 
  01     00:00.00  04:57.05    Audio
  02     04:57.05  03:33.60    Audio
  03     08:30.65  05:48.35    Audio
  04     14:19.25  05:55.00    Audio
  05     20:14.25  07:04.27    Audio
  06     27:18.52  03:56.35    Audio
  07     31:15.12  04:21.43    Audio
  08     35:36.55  05:58.32    Audio
  09     41:35.12  07:00.65    Audio
  10     48:45.72  07:16.20    Audio
  11     58:34.17  07:17.45    Data (Mode 2)
 

Simulation :

 ID 0: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W4012A V1.04 (S/N:na) (40.49.12D)
Read speed: 17-40X CAV, Jumper settings: 001, BURN-Proof enabled
Blank disc, Taiyo Yuden (type 1), 79:59:72

CD Copy log
-----------
Selected write speed: 40 X
--------

Simulation completed successfully
There are 2 different Z-CLV zones
Selected Write Speed            : 40 X
Maximum Media Write Speed : 24 X
Actual Last Write Speed         : 20 X   PoweRec : enabled

Writing ( note, CDRW w 12x ) :

 Source
------
D:\Plextor WAVs\Absolute Benson.pxi

Destination
-----------
Host Adapter: 2  SCSI ID: -  Maximum # Targets: -

Description: Secondary IDE Channel
Type       : IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

Port Driver: atapi.sys
Provider   : 
Description: IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location   : C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version    : 5.1.2600.0 (XPClient.010817-1148)
Date       : 

ID 0: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W4012A V1.04 (S/N:n/a) (40.55.9D)
Read speed: 17-40X CAV, Jumper settings: 001, BURN-Proof enabled
CD-ROM, 1 session(s), 1 track(s), 65:51.62

CD Copy log
-----------
Selected write speed: 12 X

include: UPC: yes  ISRC: yes  CD+G: no
1st session only : no
Allow Overburning : yes   Leave Disc Open: no
Audio Error Detection : disabled
-Advanced error detection disabled
-Maximum errors   : unlimited
-Allow Speed Down : yes
Read Error Recovery Strategy : 5. Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector.

Erasing disc...
Disc erased.
Start of writing
Copy 1 of 1
Writing Lead In + CD TEXT
Writing Track 1  Start: 00:00.00  Length: 04:57.05
Writing Track 2  Start: 04:57.05  Length: 03:33.60
Writing Track 3  Start: 08:30.65  Length: 05:48.35
Writing Track 4  Start: 14:19.25  Length: 05:55.00
Writing Track 5  Start: 20:14.25  Length: 07:04.27
Writing Track 6  Start: 27:18.52  Length: 03:56.35
Writing Track 7  Start: 31:15.12  Length: 04:21.43
Writing Track 8  Start: 35:36.55  Length: 05:58.32
Writing Track 9  Start: 41:35.12  Length: 07:00.65
Writing Track 10  Start: 48:45.72  Length: 07:16.20
Closing session 1
Writing Track 11  Start: 58:34.17  Length: 07:17.45
Writing Lead Out
CD Copy completed successfully
Selected Write Speed            : 12 X
Maximum Media Write Speed : 12 X
Actual Last Write Speed         : 12 X   PoweRec : enabled



#3

Originally posted by crymsonsunset

Simulating Write Track 6 Start: 56:50.32 Length: 00:58.10
Write error at 56:50.32 Illegal request (code 052C00)
Closing disc…

What’s on that particular file ? Is it copy permitted ?


#4

If that was you who searched for this code, it means

052C00 ILLEGAL REQUEST: COMMAND SEQUENCE ERROR


#5

Update:

Tooled around a little last night and was able to complete a burn of the image successfully.

Even though the software finished the simulation successfully, it still produced the same error. I did not save a log file showing this, however, I believe I can reproduce the results if anyone would like to see PlexTools’ output.

(Aside: BoSkin - To answer your question, I do not think there is
any sort of copy protection on the CD from which I created the image file.)

My system is configured as follows:
IDE 1 Master: Western Digital 120GB Special Edition HD on
IDE 1 Slave: None
IDE 2 Master: PlexWriter PX-W4824TA/SW
IDE 2 Slave: PlexCombo PX-320A

I do not know if having both CD drives on the same IDE channel could be causing this particular problem, but I have not noticed any other problems thus far.

Attempting to simulate burning on the PlexCombo produced the same results - sometimes the burn would fail, sometimes it would fail AND completely lock up PlexTools (one time it completely locked up Win XP) and other times it would complete successfully. In every situation though, it always produced the error message:

"Write error at … Illegal request (code 052C00) "

I’m going to submit this problem to Plextor when I get a chance. If/when I hear back from them I’ll post their response.

Hopefully there’s an explanation/resolution for this issue.


#6

Ummmmm, don’t know if this is the correct post but… has anybody determinated the maximun amount of data that a plextor 24x can afford? i have 100 min cds and it record till the 94’ without problems. If i try to burn a 99’ disc, then a Illegal request: … happens.

Thanks in advance


#7

Originally posted by Morglum007
has anybody determinated the maximun amount of data that a plextor 24x can afford?
Yep 94 minutes is about the maximum amount you can burn with a 24X Plex:


#8

Okay, still working on this problem, but here is what’s gone on thus far. Sorry this is so long, but hopefully you may find the results interesting or useful.

Peter,

Thank you for your suggestions.

I’m using an Abit IT7 Max2 2.0 motherboard which is based on the Intel 845PE chipset. Intel has made available the “Intel Application Accelerator” which to my knowledge contains the latest bus master drivers for this chipset.

I was already running the latest version of IAA (2.3) along with the latest version of Intel’s chipset drivers package (4.30.1006).

I tried uninstalling IAA and was able to burn a CD-Extra CD with no problems.

Here is a copy of the log with IAA removed:


PlexTools V1.19     CD Copy log file
Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Plextor SA/NV
05 March 2003
----------------------------------------------------- 

Software information
--------------------
Windows XP V5.01.2600 Service Pack 1
ASPI Manager: n/a
Description : n/a 

Source
------
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\My Documents\CD Images\diorama.pxi 

Destination
-----------
Host Adapter: 1  SCSI ID: -  Maximum # Targets: - 

Description: Secondary IDE Channel
Type       : IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers 

Port Driver: atapi.sys
Provider   : 
Description: IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location   : C:\WINDOWS\System32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version    : 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Date       : 

ID 1: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-320A   V1.05 (S/N:089661) (-18.-12.-16?)
Read speed: 17-40X CAV, Jumper settings: 010, BURN-Proof enabled
Blank disc, CMC Magnetics Corporation (type 6), 79:59:71 

CD Copy log
-----------
Selected write speed: 20 X 

include: UPC: yes  ISRC: yes  CD+G: no
1st session only : no
Allow Overburning : yes   Leave Disc Open: no
Audio Error Detection : disabled
-Advanced error detection disabled
-Maximum errors   : unlimited
-Allow Speed Down : yes
Read Error Recovery Strategy : 5. Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector. 

Start of simulation
Simulating Write Lead In
Simulating Write Track 1  Start: 00:00.00  Length: 05:37.15
Simulating Write Track 2  Start: 05:37.47  Length: 04:05.30
Simulating Write Track 3  Start: 09:43.02  Length: 05:17.45
Simulating Write Track 4  Start: 15:00.47  Length: 04:36.10
Simulating Write Track 5  Start: 19:37.55  Length: 04:13.35
Simulating Write Track 6  Start: 23:52.52  Length: 05:38.25
Simulating Write Track 7  Start: 29:32.60  Length: 04:42.20
Simulating Write Track 8  Start: 34:15.05  Length: 04:29.37
Simulating Write Track 9  Start: 38:44.42  Length: 04:21.33
Simulating Write Track 10  Start: 43:06.62  Length: 04:12.48
Simulating Write Track 11  Start: 47:20.72  Length: 09:52.58
Closing session 1
Simulating Write Track 12  Start: 59:45.55  Length: 19:51.13
Simulating Write Lead Out
Simulation completed successfully
Selected Write Speed            : 20 X
Maximum Media Write Speed : 20 X
Actual Last Write Speed         : 20 X   

I then tried reinstalling IAA and burning again, with the following results:


PlexTools V1.19     CD Copy log file
Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Plextor SA/NV
05 March 2003
----------------------------------------------------- 

Software information
--------------------
Windows XP V5.01.2600 Service Pack 1
ASPI Manager: n/a
Description : n/a 

Source
------
C:\Documents and Settings\Mark\My Documents\CD Images\6DOIT1.pxi 

Destination
-----------
Host Adapter: 1  SCSI ID: -  Maximum # Targets: - 

Description: 
Type       : 

Port Driver: 
Provider   : 
Description: 
Location   : 
Version    : 
Date       : 

ID 0: PLEXTOR CD-R   PX-W4824A V1.04 (S/N:730873) (0.0.27A)
Read speed: 18-40X CAV, Jumper settings: 001, BURN-Proof enabled
Blank disc, CMC Magnetics Corporation (type 6), 79:59:71 

CD Copy log
-----------
Selected write speed: 48 X 

include: UPC: yes  ISRC: yes  CD+G: no
1st session only : no
Allow Overburning : yes   Leave Disc Open: no
Audio Error Detection : disabled
-Advanced error detection disabled
-Maximum errors   : unlimited
-Allow Speed Down : no
Read Error Recovery Strategy : 5. Recover the best bytes (least errors) per sector. 

Start of simulation
Simulating Write Lead In
Simulating Write Track 1  Start: 00:00.00  Length: 13:52.57
Simulating Write Track 2  Start: 13:52.57  Length: 10:21.18
Simulating Write Track 3  Start: 24:14.00  Length: 09:32.47
Simulating Write Track 4  Start: 33:46.47  Length: 13:45.62
Simulating Write Track 5  Start: 47:32.34  Length: 06:45.73
Illegal request (code 052C00) 


Closing session 1
Simulating Write Track 6  Start: 56:50.32  Length: 00:58.10
Write error at 56:50.32  Illegal request (code 052C00)  
Closing disc 

Note that the problem returned. This was the case with both Plextor drives in my system.

I’ve since upgraded to PlexTools 1.20A. The firmware for both drives (PX-320A - 1.05; PX-W4824A - 1.04) and my motherboard is the latest available. The problem still persists - I cannot burn a CD Image or make an on-the-fly copy of a CD-Extra disc when IAA is running on my system.

Also, to answer the question in your e-mail, I created the image by using the CD-Copy module of PlexTools and choosing a drive as the source and a .pxi file as the destination.

As you may notice from the log files, two different CD extra discs are being used for tests. The same errors occur with each disc when IAA is installed. No errors are produced for either disc when IAA is removed.

So now it seems that there is a problem with Intel Application Accelerator and PlexTools on my particular system. Are there any known compatability issues between these two pieces of software?

Thanks for your help,

Mark


Peter Vermeulen <pvermeulen@plextor.be> wrote:

Dear sir ,

How did you create the image file?
I would suggest that you install the latest busmaster drivers for your mainboard.
These can be found at the website from the manufacturers from your mainboard or chipset.

Kind regards ,
Peter Vermeulen
Support Engineer
Plextor Europe


#9

It’s the typical conflict between DMA and writing subchannels.
That’s why I never install busmaster drivers unless it’s necessary… Windows busmaster drivers usually work without problems and are as fast as the Intel/Via drivers.

It’s better explained here:
http://www.feurio.net/English/history_1_60.shtml
“Problem: IDE-CD-Writer, DMA and CD-TEXT:
Unfortunately there have been several problems with IDE-CD-Writers, if DMA mode is activated and CD Text is to be written: On some systems the system crashes when writing the Lead-in.
The reasons for this are faulty IDE Busmaster drivers. To write CD Text, an “unusual” block size (96 bytes per sector) is used. It would appear that many busmaster drivers are unable to cope with this.
We have now tried to include a few “tricks” to transfer the data to the driver in a “more digestible” fashion. Please let us know if this has improved writing CD Text. It could of course also mean that these tricks make writing CD text not work on other systems - in this case please also send us a message!
Just to clarify the situation again: This is/was not an error in Feurio! - It is an error in many IDE Busmaster drivers which were probably only tested by the manufacturer with “usual” data block sizes - and still contain errors which only occur with “unusual” block sizes.
If writing CD text with active busmaster drive operation does not work with this version either, we can only continue to advise you to deactivate busmaster operation and to urge the vendor to finally correct the driver.”

And this is why I miss affordable SCSI writers so much.
And Plextor drives are rather error prone with DMA.