Pirated content in Spain valued at over $6 billion in 6 months

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#1

Pirated content in Spain valued at over $6 billion in 6 months.

[newsimage]http://static.rankone.nl/images_posts/2010/06/tXtrJh.jpg[/newsimage]A new IDC Research report indicates the estimated value of pirated content shared during the second half of 2009 in Spain was valued at $6.3 billion, as the nation has struggled to prevent piracy.


Read the full article here: [http://www.myce.com/news/pirated-content-in-spain-valued-at-over-6-billion-in-6-months-30328/](http://www.myce.com/news/pirated-content-in-spain-valued-at-over-6-billion-in-6-months-30328/)


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#2

Copyright groups never get tired of the same ole argument. One pirated movie or TV show does not equal one purchased movie or TV show. They are not equals.


#3

They’re having money troubles. Cut 'em some slack.


#4

I agree with the first poster. These companies assume that people have infinite budgets, and they could actually afford everything there downloading. They also assume had the user had a choice between whatever they spent their money on already, or the downloaded content, that it would of been on the downloaded content.

I would think only a small fraction of downloaded material is a lost sale. People have budgets. If they had to pay for what they were downloading, it was severely restrict the quanitity, as well as hard decisions on whether or not to give up whatever else they wanted to spend the money on.


#5

And notice how the US doesn’t clamour to CHINA about pirate or privacy?? Guess I know who the US calls UNCLE…

Also those number are so dubious since they give no way to independently verify the numbers and even the US NGO -and they are in bed with the MPAA/RIAA- couldn’t verify those so called claims that should make everyone doubts those numbers from Spain as well.


#6

absolute bull s**t!! when the entertainment industry give customers what they want, when they want it and how they want it, then is the time to start complaining about so-called ‘piracy’ and the losses it ‘may’ cause. get definitive proof of the figures from independent sources, not from the ‘industries’ only and give fair comparisons. one download hasn’t, doesn’t and never will equal one lost sale. a ‘try before you buy’ option is needed as is the ability to return a disk if the content is not as touted to be, for a full refund, just like all other purchased items. still dont understand why one industry can have so much influence on all governments when other equally valued industries cant!


#7

I wish I could find it now but some time ago I read an article that tried to trace the origins of one of those RIAA 6-bagillion dollar claims. After all was said and done and many months of research, the author finally traced the origins of the music industries number to a report published in the 80’s concerning copied computer software that one company had estimated translated into $50,000-150,000 one year (I want to say it was and estimate for Adobe Photoshop). Over the past two decades that higher number has been so badly hacked, inflated, multiplied, converted from dollars to units, then back to dollars using a higher base price, filled with assumptions and creative fudging that the people reporting these numbers don’t even know where they came from. The truth is that these industries are spitting out the highest dollar figure they think the untrained masses will accept as “not completely made-up”.

For an entertaining look at the world of statistics, go find a copy of a book called “How to Lie with Statistics” and you’ll get an eye opener on how and why these statistics the RIAA and MPAA splatter all over the media are complete and utter nonsense. The book is 15+ years out of print so find it however you can.


#8

Just an important tip that doesnt seem to be fully understood outside Spain.

In the US, Spain is considered as Europe, and when Europe is considered, budgets like Germany or England are also considered. Moreover, cds and dvds prizes here in Spain are usually as high as in Germany, France or England, when general population are fairly over 1000€ per month. In Spain there are tons of piracy, because family budgets are not as high as it is in other EU regions, specially considering earned salaries VS goods cost.

Example: DVD release, Avatar, at 24€, Blu-ray at 35€. Just to be seen once. Not worth, not for that money.
Another one: Console Game: 65€ (Modern Warfare 2 for example)

Do you expect people can expend 6.5% of its salary into ONE game, or 3% in a movie when house cost are over 80% of the monthly earning?

Definitelly thats not real. Spain is not Germany, nor France, neither UK, but goods cost are the same. You cannot expect to obtain same profit from “hungry” and “thirsty” population.

Greetz


#9

[QUOTE=Morglum007;2522939]Do you expect people can expend 6.5% of its salary into ONE game, or 3% in a movie when house cost are over 80% of the monthly earning?

Definitelly thats not real. Spain is not Germany, nor France, neither UK, but goods cost are the same. You cannot expect to obtain same profit from “hungry” and “thirsty” population.[/QUOTE]

So if I understand you correctly, and I think I do, it’s okay to steal as long as you’re poor. Hmm… I think you might be on to something here. Just as rich people shouldn’t be lining up at the soup kitchens, neither should the poor be buying DVDs. It’s all so clear to me now.


#10

[QUOTE=DukeNukem;2523131]So if I understand you correctly, and I think I do, it’s okay to steal as long as you’re poor. Hmm… I think you might be on to something here. Just as rich people shouldn’t be lining up at the soup kitchens, neither should the poor be buying DVDs. It’s all so clear to me now.[/QUOTE]
Trolling? Lol.

I think he’s pointing out that with an average income less than average living expenses, on average, entertainment sales are only a birthday & xmas thing.
But the studios are assuming every download is a lost sale, when the average sales are actually approaching zero per person. Therefore, because sales in this poor country do not match sales in a rich country (like the USA/Britain), then the Spanish are the scourge of the seven seas :iagree:

The morality concerning downloading content for free versus paying for the content doesn’t enter into his discussion.

You can’t get blood out of a stone. You can’t get money out of people without money.
Suing & ruining people that have no money, will just breed contempt & eventually revolt.

Don’t punish the princes! Flog the peasants!

I can’t help notice that Spain is in the poor basket with Greece … as in almost bankrupt. Bankruptcy means everyone has lots of money, right :wink:


#11

@debro, great analysis & explanation!