Pioneer Writer BDXL QL (128 GB) compatibility


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I’ve recently tried to burn Sony 128GB BDXL media (SONY-NQ1-001) with my Pioneer BDR S09XLT bluray writer. You may first wonder where I got the 128GB BDXL media from. They’re available in Sony’s XDCAM 128GB and ODC1500R cartridges for years… But it seems like that nobody ever noticed and tried to open them up and burn them with a conventional BDXL writer)
My Pioneer BDR S09XLT is not capable of burning them, although the retail package and Pioneer’s website claim to support the BDXL-QL (128GB) format. It could be assumed, these discs do not comply with the BDXL-QL specification. But they do carry the right MID (SONY-NQ1-001), so they should match the BDXL-QL specification.

If you take a look at the media support list of the Pioneer BD-R XL writers on their Japan Website, you don’t find any(!) Pioneer writer whose current firmware contains an MID for QL media…! Therefore, I suspect that none of the Pioneer BDXL writer’s ever sold up to now (Aug. 17th 2017) is capable of writing to BDXL QL media, simply because there is NO FIRMWARE SUPPORT (although the drives are advertised for that)

But then I took my LG WH16NS48 (Firmware 1.D3) and Imgburn reports the following:

HL-DT-ST BD-RE WH16NS48 1.D3 (RAID)
Current Profile: BD-R

Disc Information:
Status: Empty
State of Last Session: Empty
Erasable: No
Free Sectors: 62’500’864
Free Space: 128’001’769’472 bytes
Free Time: 13889:06:64 (MM:SS:FF)
Next Writable Address: 0
MID: SONY-NQ1-001
Supported Write Speeds: 2x; 4x; 6x

BD Disc Information (L0):
Disc ID: SONY-NQ1-001
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120 mm
Disc Class: 1
Disc Version: 2
Number of Layers: 4
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 58.25 nm (32 GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 533’560’832
Last PAA of Data Zone: 50’428’024

BD Disc Information (L1):
Disc ID: SONY-NQ1-001
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120 mm
Disc Class: 1
Disc Version: 2
Number of Layers: 4
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 58.25 nm (32 GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 2’113’928’704
Last PAA of Data Zone: 50’428’024

BD Disc Information (L2):
Disc ID: SONY-NQ1-001
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120 mm
Disc Class: 1
Disc Version: 2
Number of Layers: 4
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 58.25 nm (32 GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 2’681’044’480
Last PAA of Data Zone: 50’428’024

BD Disc Information (L3):
Disc ID: SONY-NQ1-001
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120 mm
Disc Class: 1
Disc Version: 2
Number of Layers: 4
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 58.25 nm (32 GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 4’261’412’352
Last PAA of Data Zone: 50’425’454

Format Capacities:
DT: 0x01 - NB: 62500864 (0x03B9B000) - TDP: 1089536
FT: 0x00 - NB: 60403712 (0x0399B000) - TDP: 65536
FT: 0x32 - NB: 60403712 (0x0399B000) - TDP: 0
FT: 0x32 - NB: 27635712 (0x01A5B000) - TDP: 0
FT: 0x32 - NB: 61714432 (0x03ADB000) - TDP: 0

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1…
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 62500863 (0x03B9AFFF)
-> RS: 26’976 KB/s (6x) - WS: 8’992 KB/s (2x)
Descriptor 2…
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 62500863 (0x03B9AFFF)
-> RS: 26’976 KB/s (6x) - WS: 17’984 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 3…
-> B0: 0x00; B1: 0x00; B2: 0x00; B3: 0x00
-> EL: 62500863 (0x03B9AFFF)
-> RS: 26’976 KB/s (6x) - WS: 26’976 KB/s (6x)

I successfully recorded the Sony BDXL QL (128GB) media with the LG WH16NS48 writer!
(see my test here https://club.myce.com/t/sony-japan-bd-r-ql-128-gb/399006)

And then, if I put the Sony 128GB media in my Pioneer BDR-S09XLT drive, it flawlessly reads that disc!!!


SONY Japan BD-R QL (128 GB)
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Thank you for the detailed information!:slight_smile:
Let’s hope for a speedy release of the firmware for Pioneer BDR-S09XLT drive!