Pioneer USA reveals HD Blu-ray drive BDR-211UBK - available late March


#1

After Pioneer Japan, also Pioneer in the USA announced a PC Blu-ray writer with Ultra HD Blu-ray support. The drive has model number BDR-211UBK and should become available late March at a MSRP of $129.99.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at http://www.myce.com/news/pioneer-usa-reveals-hd-blu-ray-drive-bdr-211ubk-available-late-march-81594/

#2

This is the spec that will leave this out in the cold.

a Core i5 or Core i7 Kaby Lake CPU to playback Ultra HD Blu-ray content.


#4

Nope, Win 10, the need for any Intel processor and the fact that recordable disks will probably never be available will doom these drives. We AMD users have had 8 core processors for a long time that are more than capable.


#5

I’m going to take a guess and say that the Cyberlink software probably doesn’t do any check to see if your CPU is up to scratch. Just because the box says you need a Kaby Lake Core i5 doesn’t mean it will force you to use one. They probably put that because that’s a good processor to use if you don’t want your videos to lag. An 8-core AMD chip would probably perform equally well (assuming the video decoder has proper support for that many threads).


#6

The need for the latest Intel platforms is due to the HDCP & HDMI restrictions. You can probably try with other newer platforms (including discrete GPUs), but if that HDCP 2.2(?) check can’t be done, you probably will be stuck with regular Blu-ray playback, with no option for playback of the higher-res UltraHD content.


#7

I agree with Albert here, any disc will most probably work but you wont get anything better than regular bluray without Kaby Lake.


#8

It’s now way past “late march” and no pioneer BDR-211UBK to be seen anywhere.

Anybody have further info on the non-Japanese models when they are due to ship (Newegg.com shows ‘in stock’, although I’m not sure that is accurate as Amazon & B&HPhotovideo both show zero stock)?


#9

Problem here is most movies aren’t worth the media press they are made to - to be of any value to purchase a HD BR system. Until this changes DVD upscale on a 32 is just fine with me. All that extra on BD movies for the cost is of little value.


#10

Newegg has the BDR-211UBK in stock. Mine shipped yesterday.


#11

The European version BDR-211EBK is finally up on Pioneer Optical EU web site, although not yet available on German/European price search engines:

http://www.pioneer-optical.eu/Products_Detail.asp?sn=194&class1=BD%20RW&ck=BD%20RW


#12

I thought that HDCP and HDMI were graphics card, graphics card cable, ODD, monitor, TV, receiver related (the handshake).
Why is Intel involved ?


#13

Data can still be read normally with the BDR-211UBK, just with excellent error correction.

But particularly for UHD-BD, these speeds are required.


#14

It’s not about the speed, it’s about certified devices that can handle the UHD encryption. If you own the 211UBK drive but you don’t have Kaby lake processor (+ specific graphic card + Windows 10 + certified software) you won’t be able to see the disc content.


#15

If the price is OK I will buy it someday, I don´t know if I need a drive for UHD, but maybe I need a new Pioneer :wink:


#16

Adding to my previous post. I can only see CPU relevancy and involvement if it has an integrated GPU and that integrated GPU is also used, and therefore must be HDCP 2.2 compliant for UHD/4K/2160p@60fps.


#17

Everything should be HDCP 2.2 complaint from beginning to the end of the signal path including the monitor. Personally I’m not interested in UHD - very expensive and very complicated for marginal improvement.


#18

That’s what I was referring to with “the handshake” in my first post in this thread.
No handshake between one or more components in the link, no HDCP 2.2 protected UHD/4K signal/stream.