Pioneer BDR-S09J/XT/XLB, 2209/209, 209D/E/U/J/XJ

Do I need a Vinpower drive to perform BD-R disc quality testing or can I use its firmware on an LG drive (and which one)? Currently I can only find Pioneer BDR-209EBK/DBK and Asus BW-16D1HT.

You need a drive with Vinpower-firmware for quality scans.

Crossflash a BH16NS55 is possible, so maybe also the Asus. Maybe you find some info here in forum

The BDR-209 is indeed one of the best drives available.

–> good quality BluRay burning for all disc manufacturers
–> excellent quality CD& DVD burning, even for old and unknown MIDs, 1x, 2x and 4x speed discs, where most of modern drives produce garbage. mostly the best jitter you can get for DVDs & CDs
–> it reads bad BluRays, DVDs, CDs where most of other drives fail

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Please do not hype this particular model. And if you intend to do so, add some proof. From my experience if there was a failure it included 209 EBK as well.

This is not a hype.

There are only 2 manufacturers left in the BD-writer-business, Pioneer and LG. In my experience the Pioneer is the better choice than the LG, and I own both drives.

I know the 208 was a bit better, but it´s EOL. I had also some better results with the BH16NS40 than with the BH16NS55, but 16NS40 is also EOL.

You can find lots of scans with 209-burned media from Vogelschreck , myself and some other users here which show the 209-burn-quality

Verbatim 6x BD-R (#43838 labled 50 pack, second BD out of yet another new 50 pack, first in the 206 thread)
CMCMAGBA5
BDR-209E/M 1.52 (manufactured 02/2017 in China)
burned @ 4x (CLV)

Sad to see that Pioneer didn’t improve the write strategy for CMC with the 209 series, the 206 and especially the 208 have better write quality @6x than the 209 has @4x. Anyhow, still very good result for CMCMAGBA5! :smiley:

Verbatim 16x DVD-R (labled 50 pack)
MCC03RG20
BDR-209E/M 1.52 (manufactured 02/2017 in China)
burned @ 12x (CAV)

DVD Q-Check PI/PO Burst Test
PIE: 128625
POE: 21430
POF: 0

DVD Q-Check TA Test (jitter/peak shift)
Inner L0: Very good (4/4)
Middle L0: Very good (5/4)

Looks pretty good for 12x. :smiley:

MCC03RG20-209E-152-12x-H120BETADVD MCC03RG20-209E-152-12x-H120PIPOU

Verbatim 6x BD-R (#43838 labled 50 pack, another BD out of that new 50 pack)
CMCMAGBA5
BDR-209E/M 1.52 (manufactured 02/2017 in China)
burned @ 4x (CLV)

A bit worse than the one above, still good for CMC though.

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Verbatim 6x BD-R (#43838 labled 50 pack, 3rd BD out of that new 50 pack, 1st in the 206, 2nd in the 208 thread)
CMCMAGBA5
BDR-209E/M 1.52 (manufactured 02/2017 in China)
burned @ 4x (CLV)

Close to the 206 result, but at 4x only, while the old 206 delivers even a bit better quality at 6x.
Kinda sad that Pioneer didn’t improve the 209 series write strategy for CMCMAGBA5 some more. :frowning:

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Verbatim 6x BD-R (5th BD out of that new #43838 labled 50 pack, others in 206 & 208 thread)
CMCMAGBA5
BDR-209E/M 1.52 (manufactured 02/2017 in China)
burned @ 4x (CLV)

Good result with this new 50pack, but still not as good as the 206 and 208 drives at 6x.

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Is there a way to find out what drive you have without taking your PC apart? Back when I first got my drive I was told that all BDR-209 drives show up in Windows’ device manager as BDR-209M.

Also, which 209s can burn BDXL M-Discs?

My 209E is also shown as 209M. It can burn BDXL.

The BDR with an D behind the number can´t burn BDXL

But can it burn M-Disc BDXL?

Not according to the supported media list.
There are only three TL discs supported (Panasonic PAN___RC4, TDK TDKBLDRNC and VERBATIMk) and just one QL disc (SONY__NQ1).
And it says “In case of unknown MID, the drive doesn’t support writing”.

Thank you for your answer.