Pioneer BDR-212UBK/2212/212DBK

In the end i bought a BDR-212EBK to find out the answer.
This drive is indeed based on a true NEC chipset.
The performance of the drive doesn’t seem anything special though (i’m already getting some buyer’s remorse; it wasn’t cheap either).

Here it’s currently around €65, it’s an ok price, especially because the D model is just about €3 cheaper.
The drive itself is basically the same that all drives since the 209 series have been, a 16x BD-writer. Unfortunately Pioneer does not invest much time and effort in the firmware/the write strategies anymore, which got worse since the 209 series as well. Nothing beats the 208 series drives, but even my 10 years old 206 beats todays 212 series write quality. :frowning:

Maybe it depends on the newer hardware.

Except BD XL media there was no new MID since around 10 years at BD and 12 years in DVD, so you can´t expect FW-tweaks for ols media.

Well, if they were able to deliver better writer quality 10 years ago already, why is it not possible with newer drives anymore? That’s disappointing. And it seems 212 series drives are even worse than 209 series drives. :frowning:
Especially considering that they offer write speeds above 6x that deliver awful results, what’s the point of that if they don’t even try to improve anything. With only Pioneer and LG left it seems they just don’t care anymore. Meh.

Maybe cheaper parts in the drives?

Sure, reducing production cost is one thing, especially due to BD writing, or optical media in general, has become rather “exotic”, they just don’t sell that many drives nowadays anymore, so why put any effort into it it seems.

That´s the situation, not only for drives, also for media

We can be happy to have still 2 manufacturers for BD-drives and 2 for DVD-drives