Pioneer 111 (sometimes) only burns at 4x

[qanda]This thread is about the Pioneer DVR-111 / DVR-A11. Click here to see full specs[/qanda]Hi, I’m having a little problem with this burner, using the same media, sometimes it burns at the correct speed, but other times it get stuck at 4x.

Right now I have a spindle of a cheap Memorex +R 8x all of them with the same ID (INFOME R20), and some of them, can’t be written other than in 4x:

But other ones at 8x:

Same happens with these Philips -R 16x CMC MAG AM3

And the same happened with another spindle of Verbatims I used last month…

It had 111 v1.29, I just crossflashed it to 111L 8.29, but nothing has changed, the problem is still there. I have Vista Ultimate x64 SP1, and of course, DMA is enabled.

Could be the drive failing? (it’s 2 years old, but it burned less than 200 discs)

Thanks in advance.

I just cleaned the drive interally for the first time (with compressed air and a really soft cloth that came to clean the LCD screen), but still the same…

Some discs with the same media ID show 4x only, and another ones 8x. At least the tray opens and closes smothly after the cleaning… :smiley:

(May be it’s got something to do with all these “queue again later” on the logs? but, those messages were there since it was brand new…)



Windows Vista 6.0
AMD64
Wow64Process
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 9.2.6.100
Internal Version: 9, 2, 6, 100

Recorder:             <PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L>Version: 8.29 - HA 1 TA 0 - 9.2.6.100
 Adapter driver:      <IDE>                     HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2000kB
 Bus Type      :      via Inquiry data
CD-ROM:               <RUVC     V4LQVWXY70      >Version: 1.03 - HA 1 TA 1 - 9.2.6.100
 Adapter driver:      <IDE>                     HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
                     : WDC WD2500AAJS-75B4A    01.0  nvstor64 Port 2 ID 0  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : RUVC    V4LQVWXY70      1.03  adh3tfqi Port 5 ID 0  DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L   E:   CdRom0
RUVC V4LQVWXY70            F:   CdRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 4094MB (4192912kB)
Free physical memory: 2550MB (2611604kB)
Memory in use       : 37 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

19.5.2009
ISO compilation
03:27:26 p.m.	#1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 452
	LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6940
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  : TRUE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#3 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3349
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3587
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 313
	Last possible write address on media:  2295103
	Last address to be written:            2150175
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 325
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2882
	Recorder: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L, Media type: DVD+R
	 Disc Manufacturer ID: <INFOME>, Media Type ID: <R20>, Product revision number: 0
	 Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 500
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 744
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 2150176 (2150176) = #2150176/477:49.1
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2150176 blocks [E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 946
	Prepare [E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:                                  Idx 0         Idx 1      Next Trk
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4403560448, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 ___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
	        0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	        0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	        0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 |  2150176 |        0 | 0x00
	  2150176 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 |        0 |        0 | 0x00
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#11 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 242
	SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4320
	Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#13 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
	Caching of files started
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4442
	Cache writing successful.
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#15 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
	Caching of files completed
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#16 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
	Burn process started at 6x (8.310 KB/s)
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2676
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#18 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9966
	---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
	Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
	 Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
	 Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Transfer Rate: <not specified> (F h)
	 Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
	 Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
	 Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
	 End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:          26053F h
	 Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
	  Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
	  Extended Information indicators: 3 h
	  Disc Manufacturer ID: INFOME..
	  Media type ID: R20
	  Product revision number: 0
	  Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
	 Media Specific [16..783]:
	    00 00 03 49 4E 46 4F 4D - 45 00 00 52 32 30 00 38    ...INFOME..R20.8
	    23 54 37 15 02 52 6C 02 - B4 63 15 15 0B 0A 08 08    #T7..Rl..c......
	    01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    01 00 38 38 02 31 5F 1C - 06 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01    ..88.1_...#.....
	    00 00 02 31 5F 1C 06 2E - 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00    ...1_...#.......
	    02 00 54 70 02 2F 63 67 - 20 14 0B 0B 01 20 00 00    ..Tp./cg........
	    00 00 02 43 63 67 20 14 - 0B 0B 01 20 00 00 00 36    ...Ccg.........6
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
	    00 00 00 00
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#19 SPTI -1066 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 215
	CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1066)
	CDB Data:   0xAC 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 64 00 00 
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x24
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 24 
	Buffer x0033a7c0: Len x648
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#20 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 637
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
03:27:27 p.m.	#21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 273
	Pipe memory size 83836800
	
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	15:28:34.217 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:34.230 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
03:28:36 p.m.	#112 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1274
	15:28:36.603 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:36.682 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:36.713 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:36.728 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:40.113 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
03:28:41 p.m.	#117 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1274
	15:28:41.361 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:41.439 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
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	15:28:41.658 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
03:28:41 p.m.	#120 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1274
	15:28:41.673 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
03:28:41 p.m.	#121 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1274
	15:28:41.735 - E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L : Queue again later
	
03:37:00 p.m.	#122 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 245
	<E: PIONEER DVD-RW  DVR-111L> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2150176 (20CF20h), length 0 blocks
	
03:37:54 p.m.	#123 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 904
	EndDAO: Last written address 2150176
	
03:37:54 p.m.	#124 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 1424
	SetDriveCaps: Set LAST LBA of layer 1 to 0
	
03:37:54 p.m.	#125 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1767
	Burn process completed successfully at 6x (8.310 KB/s)
	
03:37:54 p.m.	#126 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 289
	SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME
	
03:37:57 p.m.	#127 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11243
	DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed
	
03:37:57 p.m.	#128 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 452
	UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL
	

Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

Anyway, that is burning one of the properly detected at 8x discs…

Use better media.

Since the problem is occurring even with Verbatim media [which is usually a good troubleshooting brand], that points to something besides your choice of media. At least that’s out of the way. :slight_smile:

Do you have any software installed that’s creating a virtual drive? That same software might be preventing the drive from communicating with the burning software properly sometimes.

Your operating system specs & fairly recent Nero version point to a fairly new system. Did you build this system yourself, or was it pre-built? If you built it yourself, what kind of motherboard, etc, make up the system, and did you re-use any parts from an older system? If pre-built, what make & model is it?

Also, has this problem just occurred after a recent hardware or software change, or has it “always been this way” since the drive was put into use?

Sofar only INFOME crap media logs been posted… and poster is only “saying”; same goes for Verbatims. :stuck_out_tongue:

[I]GeorgeCostanza[/I], please post us an MCC-004 media burn log to prove your “Verbatim crap statement”. Thanks. :flower:

BTW, I’ve hard to believe this has anything to do with the “system” because my 13y+ old 266MHz compu can burn @12x with all of my latest high “internal” speed IDE burners.

Hi, thanks for the answers, as Albert said, it happens with different media.

I built this system myself like 2 years ago, but I didn’t changed anything in months…

Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2
Athlon X2
4 GB DDR2 RAM
8800GS
WD 250GB SATA2 (and a WD 200GB SATA2 that i sent to RMA last week because it was failing)
And this DVDRW (it’s really a crossflashed Asus DRW-1608P3S, but I flashed it like one year ago, so I don’t think is related)

Win Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 with a fresh installation (with the lastest nForce drivers), because I had it installed on the broken HDD.

I have Daemon Tools Lite 4.30.4.0027 installed right now.

But the problem was there with the previous Windows installation, and with the new one before I installed DT.

I don’t know, maybe it’s time for a new drive, but it’s really weird, because besides the 4x issue, it works great, I didn’t have even one bad burn with this drive…

[QUOTE=pinto2;2277864]Sofar only INFOME crap media logs been posted… and poster only “saying” same goes for Verbatims". :stuck_out_tongue:

[I]GeorgeCostanza[/I], please post us an MCC-004 media burn log to prove your “Verbatim crap statement”. Please. :flower:[/QUOTE]
LOL, sorry, I don’t have any blank Verbatim right now at home, I just have a spindle of this Memorex INFOME crap (I didn’t know before buying, they were cheap but I thought there were going to be at least CMC MAG :D), but I tell you the last Verbatims I used, they were detected as 4x too…

And take a look, this is the very same Philips -R CMC MAG AM3 from the other screenshot, I burned it yesterday at max 4x, and now that it’s already burned, it says 16x compatible…

First my Argentinian friend, any NEC chipset burner is programmed to adopt to media quality used. (The discs you use are crap, even with a stolen MID). (Note, courts onse for all have rooled out; a media code is no protected by any patent law, not even the best at all MCC-004. Sorry to say this. :sad:

And in a country you live [I]GeorgeCostanza[/I], the best you can do in future is to order media from the “old wourld” ie. Europe, or better at all from Japan and Taiwan.

Edit at all. :wink:
INFOMEDIA = CRAP: Period.

[QUOTE=pinto2;2277864]Sofar only INFOME crap media logs been posted… and poster is only “saying”; same goes for Verbatims. :stuck_out_tongue:

[I]GeorgeCostanza[/I], please post us an MCC-004 media burn log to prove your “Verbatim crap statement”. Thanks. :flower:

BTW, I’ve hard to believe this has anything to do with the “system” because my 13y+ old 266MHz compu can burn @12x with all of my latest high “internal” speed IDE burners.[/QUOTE]

They made 'puters that long ago?

Hmm. The only thing I can think of is that the drive has decided to kick the bucket. It may be worth your time to go ahead and shop for a new writer.

Another Pioneer would be good right about now, or an Optiarc 720x series drive. And they usually offer the full range of speeds. :bigsmile: & With the sometimes-finicky nVidia SATA controller, it would probably be better to stay with a PATA/IDE drive.

Don’t forget to mate it with a new PATA cable, just in case something might be wrong with your current one. (Or a SATA cable, should you go for an SATA burner). Some genuine Verbatim media, or some media made by Taiyo Yuden, would go well with the newer drive you choose. :slight_smile:

Forum Member pinto2 is absolutely correct. NEC chipset based Burners (in this instance Pioneer DVR-111) when poor quality Media is encountered will fall back to the Default burning speed which in this instance is 4x speed.

From the data Forum Member GeorgeCostanza has posted in this thread this is exactly what is occurring in this instance. Forum Member GeorgeCostanza has not posted any data to support any evidence that Pioneer DVR-111 Optical Drive is performing in any other manner than what it is designed to do.

If Forum Member GeorgeCostanza desires to Burn Media at its rated speed the remedy is to purchase known proven quality Media instead of the known proven poor quality CMC Magnetics Corporation CMC MAG AM3 Media.

Regards,
bjkg

The “short” MID is not the whole info necessary…