Pioneer 110 , buffer dropping?

vbimport

#1

Hi

I have recently got a new 110D, and I have noticed in certain areas of the disc it will drop buffer to 0%. And then continue 1 second or 2 later.

I understand that there is OPC, but is this how it is suppose to work??

Sometimes it drops twice within 2 seconds… usually drops once.

Around the 20% and 80% mark, consistently…

I am using Ritek G05, Used other disc too, similiar buffer drops at 20% and 80%…

why is this, and is this normal?
who else gets this?


#2

Yeah,no problem.


#3

The drive has to cycle down and shift up the speed according to the used write method and speed.


#4

but, its still abit weird,
there shouldn’t be any drops at 80%,


#5

Yes it can drop at 80% OPC kicking in.


#6

If you’re burning G05 at 12x, it will kick once (perhaps around 20%) to go from 6x to 8x, and then again (perhaps around 80%) to go from 8x to 12x. That is the nature of the Z-CLV writing method.

If it makes you cringe, burn the disc at 6x CLV. It shouldn’t drop speed at all. Good test to try anyway.

-Evan-


#7

ok cool i’ll try x6
i could only burn at x8 though???
g05 only x8? is something wrong?


#8

Use Nero CD-DVD Speed create data disc and you’ll see what is actually happening during a burn.


#9

I have same thing here but exactliy at 10% drops at sertain media with 3-4 seconds break at mormal drops with no stops on others media


#10

GO5 burns best at 8X on my drives and crashes at 12X on some of my drives.


#11

Already explained, please read my earlier post in this thread.

As for some speed dopdowns at the 4gig mark when burning faster than 8x: That were done in the firmware by Pioneer to keep the burning quality high, because most media have their weakest point after the 4gb “mark”.
Conclusion: It will take a very few secs longer to burn, BUT you get better quality within your burn in the end. :wink:


#12

[QUOTE=chef]Already explained, please read my earlier post in this thread.
As for some speed dopdowns at the 4gig mark when burning faster than 8x: QUOTE]
year fine
but it happens all the way and mostly at 10-30% of disk burning from the beginnig and no matter if it at 1 2 3 or 4 gigs line
it`s just drops and recovers almost every 30-45 sec
and one big drop with delay after 1 minute (3-4 secs spins with no light and spins out further fine) this happens espesiaaly at 8x disks

I still cant understand how the burner can stop writing at any time in my case and nothing can do only reboot


#13

year fine
but it happens all the way and mostly at 10-30% of disk burning from the beginnig and no matter if it at 1 2 3 or 4 gigs line
it`s just drops and recovers almost every 30-45 sec
and one big drop with delay after 1 minute (3-4 secs spins with no light and spins out further fine) this happens espesiaaly at 8x disks

I still cant understand how the burner can stop writing at any time in my case and nothing can do only reboot

You need to try different media. Also, tell us what media you’ve tried. Include a Nero error log file in your next post.
Finally, try a Nero CD/DVD Speed test on a piece of BLANK media. Do a screenshot and include that in your next post as well.

-Evan-


#14

different medias different speeds
random locks

some threat shots:
old link with first drive:p110of
second one the same so I dont suppose it defective hope so… couse it burns sometimes even more than 0.5 disks

some bad:1 2

some good:1 2 3 4 5 6

if burner not hangs ups with nero and nero keeps operational it can make Invalid Block Error
(take into account that I replaced the drive with new one at warranty service recently)
_ here log fragment:


2:25:36 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 846
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 358912 (358912) = #358912/79:45.37
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 358912 blocks [D: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D]
--------------------------------------------------------------

2:25:36 #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1058
Prepare recorder [D: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 5 to 5:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 735051776, ISRC “”
DAO layout:
===========
Start|Track|Idx|CtrlAdr|RecDep_____
22128 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
22128 | 5 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00
22128 | 5 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00
381040 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00

2:25:37 #13 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 34
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

2:25:37 #14 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files started

2:25:37 #15 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4129
Cache writing successful.

2:25:37 #16 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Caching of files completed

2:25:37 #17 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1724
Burn process started at 6x (8*310 KB/s)

2:25:37 #18 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2669
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #22128

2:25:37 #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8385
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+R (10), Part Version: 1.0x (1)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: SONY…
Media type ID: D11
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 56
Media Specific [16…63]:
00 00 03 53 4F 4E 59 00 - 00 00 00 44 31 31 00 38 …SONY…D11.8
23 54 37 14 00 32 6F 00 - 96 6A 17 19 0C 0C 0A 0B #T7…2o…j…
01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

2:25:37 #20 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 666
Start write address at LBA 22128
DVD high compatibility mode: No

2:25:39 #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1195
02:25:39.591 - D: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D : Queue again later

2:25:50 #22 SPTI -1064 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 306
CdRom0: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1064)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x21
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 59 90 00 00 20 00 00 00
Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0E 00 00 00 00 21 02
Buffer x058a0000: Len x10000
0xA4 C0 29 16 4D 8E C1 73 68 63 CD F0 CA 56 98 71
0xC4 4C 67 C3 D4 5E 94 C7 3E 60 58 C4 73 08 C1 E1
0x2A FD 3A 71 AD EF 8D 2C FE 3D EA E7 1E DD 88 9F

2:25:50 #23 CDR -1064 File Writer.cpp, Line 302
Invalid block address
D: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-110D



#15

tried different ASPI and burner software … cant find any ideas
no matter what to burn CD or DVD also
and another old CD-RW drive works normal…


#16

just imagine - couldn’t burn SONY 8x media about 10 sessions in a raw a file of 700 mb
(diff speeds, same result at beginnig Invalid Block)
and after rebooting it starts on and hangs hero at the end right here:
have a look

drive as usual light off and keeps spinnig …
(it can continue long time till reset or reboot if possible, all other windows stuff keeps working fine - just cant reboot normally cause Nero cant be closed anyhow)

(the case when I was trying to burn with Invalind block can happen at closded services and background programs or fully unloaded also)

after reset it can start burning but can fail too, very strange that it fails after successfull start Randomly and cant diagnose that… behavior


#17

SPECIFICALLY, what brands/manufacturers of DVD and CD have you tried?

Also, put a blank CD and DVD in the drive, open CD/DVD Speed and click on “Start” (not “create data disk”). Try all the kinds of media you have and do screenshots of each one (good and bad).

Have you tried different IDE drivers? Do you have the latest Nero? What about processes running in the background. Disable every program running in the task bar and list every process running on your machine. Run a virus scan.

-Evan-


#18

Been reinstalling that damn Nvidia2 IDE and others drivers all the night (too much reboots, lost network controller driver functional and hardly recoveresd old one couse new seems malfunction)… this looks like this is last thing that can affect IDE burning in this system.

Nero version always the last one (and at that screen was seventh its been leaket and available in the network freely, works same as others for my probs).

Brands are:
Verbatim 16x+DVD
TDK 8x-DVD
Digited 8x±DVD
Sony 8x+DVD
TDK CD-800
Digitex CD-700
it`s all no matter with media in my case - any can fail and succes too

about blank media runs (tried and it tells to make create data, dont think here needed that media tests, really hopes thats a kind a software problem, already thrilled windows in and out… its boots like hell and runs smooth… new drivers may add some performance, and lastly there can be Pioneer incompatibility but cant test everyting … it gets to many variants of testing)


#19

OK, that’s good. You seems to have Windows down and streamlined. Very important.

  • Personally, I would try another kind of media. Looks like you have some MCC and some Sony or DAXON there, perhaps some cruddy CMC too. I would try some TYG02 which is an 8x media. The 110 can have issues writing to 16x media (in CAV mode). I’d try TY to rule it out.
  • But first, get rid of any and all IDE nVidia drivers. I have two machines with nVidia 2 and 3 boards (and several that I’ve built for others) so I know this product. Uninstall the complete driver package and reinstall all but the IDE drivers. Go into Device Manager and make sure that the MS default IDE drivers are installed. Make sure all devices are operating in DMA mode.
  • Are you running WXP SP2? If so, go to Windows Update and remove the HighMAT writing support patch. I read somewhere about problems with that patch and writing.
  • Have you tried other DVD writing software? Look for DVDDecrypter, a favorite on this board.
  • Also, I believe there might be an update for your writer (maybe f/w 1.22?). Do a search on the forum.

-Evan-


#20

From the other thread you posted in it seems to me that your drive is knackered…

But the only real chance to find it out in a short time is to connect and test the drive in another computer.