Pioneer 109 - Hit & Miss

I’ve had this drive about a month and its hit and miss, one minute it’ll burn 3-4-5 discs then it wont write anything. I’ve upgraded the firmware to 1.50 from Pioneer website.

Here is a log file.

Insert empty disc to write to.
	(Medium in drive: Unknown. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW, DVD-R/RW.)

00:04:23 #132 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
Prepare recorder [PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109 ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 2913173504, ISRC “”
DAO layout:
===========
_Start|___Track|Idx|RecDep|CtrlAdr
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
1422448 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

00:04:23 #133 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process started at 8x (11,040 KB/s)

00:04:23 #134 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

00:04:23 #135 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 8:58,481 (538481ms) -> OK

00:04:23 #136 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1424
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

00:04:23 #137 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19397
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

00:04:23 #138 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1539
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

00:04:23 #139 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7912
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 5
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 0 h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
30 01 02 04 06 00 00 00 - 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0…
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

00:04:27 #140 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1276
00:04:27.016 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

00:06:37 #141 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1276
00:06:37.533 - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0 : Queue again later

00:09:37 #142 CDR -25 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
Queue again later
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-109\H1 T0

00:09:37 #143 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

00:09:37 #144 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

00:09:37 #145 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1743
EndDAO: Last written address was 2047

00:09:39 #146 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

00:09:39 #147 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

00:09:39 #148 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process failed at 8x (11,040 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File ‘Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS’: Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/03/2005 23:28:13 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File ‘Drivers\atapi.sys’: Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 01:27:50 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

Please can someone help, this is getting on my nerves, im sick of wasting discs and I really need to burn a shed load of discs!

Cheers
Jazz.

Just got another error message “Positioning Error” or something regarding positioning!

Cheers
Jazz.

Sounds like bad media. What is it?

Latest firmware is 1.55.

Im using Ritek Taiwan

Is 1.55 any good? I didnt know it was out?

I find it marginally better than 1.50 - I use mainly Verbatim and TY - so I cannot comment on whether it’s better for Ritek.

Do you think its worth tryin 1.55 with this media? Ive always used Ritek with my 107 no probs @ all.

Hello :slight_smile:

“Im using Ritek Taiwan” -
please, can you be more precise…?

Which “Ritek”?
> rated speed: 4x? 8x?
> brand: unbranded? Ridata? Ridisc? Traxdata? Arita?..

Are the ones you use know of the same batch you used on your 107?..

Most online resellers make you think you’re buying Ritek-branded medias when they’re not, they’re just Ritek-manufactured unbranded media which can be of any grade.
Ritek-branded medias are not sold anymore outside Asia (that I know of - I’ve been searching for them everywhere).

Reliable Ritek media brands are : Traxdata and Ridata. Ridisc is a second choice alternative (there has been bad Ridiscs batches but all the Ridiscs I’ve bought recently are excellent on my 109).
The rest is too uneven in quality to bother. :Z

Printable Ritek-manufactured disks are often a problem. Are yours printable ones?

Anyway you should try burning with some very reliable media (Verbatim, Taiyo Yuden, Maxell made in japan) just to be sure…

As for 1.55: go for it, 1.50 has many compatibility issues (read the 109 review by OC Freak - sticky topic in this forum).

Hi m8, they’re just Ritek Taiwan, as it says on the Tub, full face printables, grade AAA+

Ive just updated to 1.55 so I just gotta try it now.

I will let you know how I get on.

Seems like you have unbranded bulk Riteks.

These vary greatly in quality from batch to batch, this “AAA+” is a marketing thing and tells you nothing about the real grade. You may get excellent ones with one batch, and awful ones with another batch, even mixed batches/grade in the same tub.

Furthermore, they’re printable ones, many users report trouble with printable Riteks, even Traxdata (top-notch Ritek media) printables have been reported as problematic on some burners…

It’s not a firmware issue anyway: I’ve been burning many Riteks G04 and G05 (Traxdata and Ridisc branded) with 1.50 before 1.55 was released.

I’m not 100% sure your problem is media related, but there’s a very, very high probability that it is.

Good luck :slight_smile:

Well i’ve just written my first disc using 1.55 no problems @ all, very smooth and lead in time was much quicker than any other versions. It could be media related, im not very confident in these discs myself but I have to get rid of them some how, either bin them or write to them. Im gonna write another disc now once i’ve finished unraring it, in DVDDecrypter, so I will see how I get on with that and report back.

Cheers
Jazz.

I would suggest it’s the media. RITEK has not been reliable for a long time now, not as much as others have been, at least. There are quite a few better blanks that can be bought.

Well its 2 outta 2 so far so lookin good, what do you suggest I use, I need full face printables though?

Cheers
Jazz.

I don’t pay attention the inkjet properties like “full face” or “hub” or whatever (I don’t print inkjet media), but see what Verbatim (MCC), Maxell (MXL) and Fuji (Taiyo Yuden) have to offers. Or online stores that direct sell by the media code (not brands).

If you really want full-face printables, welcome to a world of pain unless you buy more expensive media.

None of the “budget” ones I tried were 100% OK in the same batch.

These include the following full-face printable medias:

-Traxadata 8x (Ritek G05) - mainly outstanding, but some mediocre burns
-Datawrite Titanium 8x (CMCMAGAE1) - high percentage of coasters, the 109 seems to HATE this media (mine does). PIE between 300 and 680!!
-Unbranded Ritek 8x (G05) - some coasters, some mediocre burns, some good
-Ridisc Xtreme 8x (Ritek G05) - mainly good, but some mediocre burns

By my standards, a “mediocre burn” is when I get areas (not single spikes) on the disk giving more than 120 PIE and/or more than 5 PIF.

It’s a pity with these Ritek G05 because when they’re good, they’re VERY good, actually better (in terms of PIE/PIF) than Verbatim media (burnt on the 109)! :sad:

Now to the reliable stuff:

Verbatim 16x (MCC03RG20)
Taiyo Yuden 16x (TYG03)
Datasafe Pro 8x (TYG02)

There are other full-face printable discs out there but I didn’t try them.

The only problem with the verbs and the TY is that the printable surface is slightly translucid near the hub, unlike the Ritek discs. But hey, do you prefer a perfect burn or a perfect look? :wink:

Hope this helps :slight_smile:

>>“It’s a pity with these Ritek G05 because when they’re good, they’re VERY good, actually better (in terms of PIE/PIF) than Verbatim media (burnt on the 109)!”

I meant better than 8X Verbatim media (MCC02RG20). On the 109, the 16X Verbs (MCC03RG20) are simply superb, absolutely perfect burns.

Just wanted to add that if you can live with non-printable medias, the choice of reliable medias is MUCH wider. Up to you… :wink:

Well its 5 outta 5 so far so im very happy with that! No coasters as of yet using 1.55. Cheers all for your help!