Pine cdr's

Has anyone ever heard of cdr’s made by PINE. They are the worst cds that I have ever used. I can actually see defects on the bottoms of some cds. Did I just get a bad batch or are they all this bad?
Here is the atip.
ATIP: 97m 28s 60f
Disc Manufacturer: Friendly CD-Tek Co.
Reflective layer: Dye (Long strategy; e.g. Cyanine, Azo etc.)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

You never really know what you’re getting on a Pine box, they seem to use different suppliers every day!
But eeeeew, Friendly CD-Tek are really the worst media I have ever seen, I thought they had already closed.

Never seem that manufacturer before, good to know that it’s best to stay away from them…

Strange, I just picked up a few 50 spindles of PINE 32x rated, I’ve burnt about 5 so far, at 40x, with my liteon LTR40125s, CDCheck and scandisk come up with 0 errors, everything I’ve burnt has worked fine in other cd players as well.

Here’s the ATIP info on my pines:

Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Cyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 26s 11f
Nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)
Disc Manufacturer: Postech Corp.
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 40X

Does anyone know the Min burn limit for Pine 700mb 48x’s? I tired burning one the other day at 1x and no dice. The info was there but it was able to enagage the program properly. If anyone does have info please PM me. Thanks.

Postech media is awful.:frowning: