PHILIPS-CD2-000 DVD+R9 does not work with ND-2500A firmware (Herrie's 1.07v2 beta 5)

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#1

My ND-2500A flashed to the firmware just fine, but when trying to burn, I get an “illegal disc” error. Is Herrie’s FW just not made for Philips DVD+R9 media? :frowning:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 7/16/2002 8:20:56 PM 
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.68, size=160016 bytes, created 7/28/2004 4:51:12 PM 
Nero version: 6.6.0.1
Recorder:             <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A>    Version: 1.07 - HA 0 TA 2 - 6.6.0.1
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM:               <DVD-16X  DVD-ROM BDV316C >Version: .20R - HA 0 TA 3 - 6.6.0.1
 Adapter driver:      <nvatabus>                HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : Maxtor 6Y120P0                nvatabus Port 0 ID 0  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A          nvatabus Port 0 ID 2  DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral      : DVD-16X DVD-ROM BDV316C       nvatabus Port 0 ID 3  DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A       E:   CDRom0
DVD-16X DVD-ROM BDV316C    F:   CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 208MB (213276kB)
Memory in use       : 59 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0) 

21.12.2004
UDF/ISO compilation
10:53:06 PM	#1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	DVD-Video files reallocation started
	
10:53:06 PM	#2 Phase 114 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	DVD-Video files reallocation completed (no file modified)
	
10:53:06 PM	#3 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6165
	Iso document burn settings
	------------------------------------------
	Determine maximum speed : FALSE
	Simulate                : FALSE
	Write                   : TRUE
	Finalize CD             : TRUE
	Multisession            : FALSE
	Burning mode            : DAO
	Mode                    : 1
	ISO Level               : 2 (Max. of 31 chars)
	Character set           : ISO 9660
	Joliet                  :FALSE
	Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
	Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
	Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
	
10:53:06 PM	#4 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	DVD-Video files sorted
	
10:53:06 PM	#5 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
	Reader running
	
10:53:06 PM	#6 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
	Writer _NEC     DVD_RW ND-2500A  running
	
10:53:06 PM	#7 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
10:53:06 PM	#8 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3286
	First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
	
10:53:06 PM	#9 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3117
	Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media
	
10:53:06 PM	#10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 256
	Last possible write address on media:  3921631 (871:28.31, 7659MB)
	Last address to be written:            3913199 (869:35.74, 7642MB)
	
10:53:06 PM	#11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 268
	Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
	
10:53:06 PM	#12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2309
	Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A, Media type: DVD+R9 Double Layer
	
10:53:06 PM	#13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 430
	>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
	=========================================
	
10:53:06 PM	#14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 844
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
	    2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
	    original disc pos #0 + 3913200 (3913200) = #3913200/869:36.0
	    relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
	    -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 3913200 blocks [_NEC     DVD_RW ND-2500A]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
10:53:06 PM	#15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1047
	Prepare recorder [_NEC     DVD_RW ND-2500A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	 MCN: ""
	 TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
	 Tracks 1 to 1:
	   1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    8014233600, ISRC ""
	DAO layout:
	===========
	 __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
	       0 |  lead-in |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   0 |   0x00 |  0x41
	       0 |        1 |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	 3913200 | lead-out |   1 |   0x00 |  0x41
	
10:53:06 PM	#16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	Caching of files started
	
10:53:07 PM	#17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4003
	Cache writing successful.
	
10:53:07 PM	#18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	Caching of files completed
	
10:53:07 PM	#19 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
	
10:53:07 PM	#20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2497
	Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
10:53:07 PM	#21 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 408
	L0 Data Zone Capacity already set to 1960816 (1DEB70h, 3829MB), requested last LBA L0 1960815 (1DEB6Fh, 3829MB) ignored
	
10:53:07 PM	#22 CDR -1205 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 506
	Burning Layer 1
	
10:53:07 PM	#23 Text 0 File DVDPlusDualLayer.cpp, Line 514
	Start writing layer 1 at address 0 (0h)
	
10:53:07 PM	#24 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1178
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 2, LUN 0, buffer 0x03796000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
	Sense Code: 0x24
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00 
	
10:53:07 PM	#25 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
	Set remaining time: 40:05,105 (2405105ms) -> OK
	
10:53:07 PM	#26 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 632
	Start write address at LBA 0
	DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
	
10:53:09 PM	#27 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1432
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 2, LUN 0, buffer 0x03140000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
	Sense Code: 0x30
	Sense Qual: 0x11
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x11 
	
10:53:09 PM	#28 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
	Illegal disc
	
10:53:09 PM	#29 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
10:53:09 PM	#30 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
10:53:09 PM	#31 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1178
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 2, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
	Sense Code: 0x30
	Sense Qual: 0x11
	CDB Data:   0x5B 0x01 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x11 
	
10:53:09 PM	#32 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1178
	SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 2, LUN 0
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x02 (KEY_NOT_READY)
	Sense Code: 0x30
	Sense Qual: 0x11
	CDB Data:   0x5B 0x01 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x02 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x30 0x11 
	
10:53:09 PM	#33 Phase 127 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	Generating DVD high compatibility borders
	
10:53:09 PM	#34 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
10:53:09 PM	#35 CDR -1046 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
	Illegal disc
	
10:53:09 PM	#36 TRANSFER -24 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 167
	Could not perform end of Disc-at-once
	
10:53:09 PM	#37 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1711
	Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK
	
10:53:09 PM	#38 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1853
	Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 7/16/2002 7:53:02 PM 
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 10/28/2003 5:02:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers
vatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0446 built by: WinDDK, size=79360 bytes, created 6/3/2004 10:40:46 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) 

#2

You are correct, the firmware does not support those discs.
(sidenote: Where did you get those discs and under what brand? )

DVD+R9 DL supported in 107HV2B5

DVD+R9:
4d 4b 4d 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 01 -> [MKM     001  ] 2.4
30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 00 01 -> [00000000000  ] 2.4
52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 52 30 30 01 01 -> [RICOHJPNR00  ] 2.4
52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 44 30 30 01 01 -> [RICOHJPND00  ] 2.4

#3

I got one disc for $14.99 (USD) at CompUSA, sold as Memorex “Double Layer DVD+R” media. The cover is white. It has a corny picture of a couple smiling at each other, while a picture of them walking on the beach is shown on the TV in the background. :smiley:

Any idea if Herrie will make the firmware compatible with these discs? I don’t want to throw away $15. :frowning:

If not is there any other firmware that will work with my drive (that also works with my Philips media)?


#4

Those discs should work with firmware 2.F8 ( Mad Dog OEM firmware )

2.F8 (2510A firmware )

DVD+R9
4d 4b 4d 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 01 -> [MKM     001  ] 2.4
52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 52 30 30 01 01 -> [RICOHJPNR00  ] 2.4
52 49 43 4f 48 4a 50 4e 44 30 30 01 01 -> [RICOHJPND00  ] 2.4
52 49 54 45 4b 00 00 00 44 30 31 01 01 -> [RITEK   D01  ] 2.4
50 48 49 4c 49 50 53 00 43 44 32 00 01 -> [PHILIPS CD2  ] 2.4
43 4d 43 20 4d 41 47 00 44 30 31 00 01 -> [CMC MAG D01  ] 2.4

You can download it at www.mdmm.com or http://tdb.rpc1.org

Don’t forget to post your burn results and PI/PIF scan if possible! :wink:


#5

Wow! Didn’t know this media type is finally available.

True support for this media type could come only from NEC. It may be possible to coax the drive into supporting this media type by using one of the existing +R9 strategies, but that would only work if either the Ricoh strat or the MKM strat just happens to be suitable for the Philips strat (possibly losing a few discs along the way in the form of testing which strat works), and there’s no gaurantee that this method would work for this media type at all.


#6

Don’t I have to do 2500->2510 first?
I have a liteon LDW-411S, so I’ll use KProbe @ 4x to scan the disc if it works.


#7

No. Go straight to the new firmware. :wink:
This explains why…


#8

GO HERE
and get 2.F8_QB2.rar for firmware and use necflash_wingui.zip to flash with

I have a liteon LDW-411S, so I’ll use KProbe @ 4x to scan the disc if it works.
get a new scanning drive or you will probably not have very good scans


#9

TDB’s firmware (as linked to by Wes) would’ve worked just as well for the purpose of burning this Philips media. It lacks any SL media hacks, but I think the priority here is to get these Philips results because everyone wants to see them. :wink:

get a new scanning drive or you will probably not have very good scans

I’ll add emphasis on “probably does not mean definitely”. There are quite a number of 411S drives that can scan reliably.


#10

I doubt mine is one… even TY DVD-R’s burned with the ND-2500A and then scanned with my LDW-411S have very high errors, and there’s no way they can really be that high. Lite-on sucks, I am never buying one of their drives again. Getting back on topic, what firmware? TDB or the Mad Dog one?


#11

TDB firmware = the Mad Dog 2.F8 firmware with RPC1 and riplock removed patches.
Get it, flash it, Rebootale, burn that PHILIPS DL ! :stuck_out_tongue:


#12

I just did, using the one at http://www.micheldeboer.nl/firmware/… I will now try watching it. :slight_smile: Thanks for the help so far, you guys have been great.


#13

Well… the results across two players are not good.

I copied my latest DVD purchase, Collateral – roughly 7.5 gigs. My PlayStation 2 can’t even read the disc past the short Dreamworks movie at the beginning. The screen goes black and stays that way. :a

My Samsung plays it just fine, until Chapter 13/14… it has serious reading problems. Then, it gets better. But a few chapters later the same thing happens. :sad: I’m not sure if this is the media or the fact that my drive was not designed to burn dual layer discs. I read somewhere that Philips CD2 DVD+R9 is actually CMC, so if that is true, I’m willing to bet that’s the problem.

Oh well, it was a good try. I am going to flash back to Herrie’s 1.07 beta 4, because DL is still a waste of time and money. Thanks for the help, everyone!


#14

most likely the drive is fine but RWDL is very hard to read. if chapter 13/14 is close to the end of the first layer my guess would be layerbreak optimization as the issue. might want to try a different soft to burn with

Oh well, it was a good try. I am going to flash back to Herrie’s 1.07 beta 4, because DL is still a waste of time and money. Thanks for the help, everyone!
especially when the SL discs are approaching 20-30 cents a disc for good media.


#15

How about a Kprobe and CD-Speed transfer rate test? :slight_smile:


#16

i don;t think the 411 can read DL discs


#17

Nk03 you should know that PS2’s have problems with DVD+R DL discs even ones bitset to DVD-ROM I have access to 4 PS2 v9’s and none of them read properly Verbatim or Ritek DVD+R DL discs made with a NEC2510 & 3500 & a BenQ 1620.

Thats not to say thats applies to all PS2’s I recall a thread in the NEC forum where someone said they had no trouble with Ritek discs and their PS2 so I guess its unit specific… (note some newer modchips also advertise DVD-9 support)

Did you try playing the disc back in your NEC drive also to see if the problems still occur ?


#18

DVD Shrink + Nero was the software I used to burn the disc. What else should I try?
And 20-30 cents for SL media sounds excellent. :iagree:

I bought my PS2 around the time it first came out in the US, so I have one of the oldest models… so I guess it is to be expected. However, it is strange that newer models can’t properly read DL media. As time goes on I am sure they will release firmware that makes more reliable burns for consoles. It wasn’t too long ago with my LDW-411S (actually, around this time last year) that all the movies I copied would skip or freeze when I played them in my PS2. Firmware of course fixed this. I did play back the movie with my NEC and BTC drives, both worked just fine. But PC’s provide a much better buffer for movie playback and so do the drives… so this is nothing surprising. I think it burned successfully, its just that the strategy for writing to DL media isn’t quite there yet if you want full compatibility. And, like I said, it is CMC media. :Z Single layer CMC media (IMation) doesn’t burn successfully with both my Lite-on and NEC. It always skips on my PS2 and Samsung, so I can’t expect DL to work just fine. I would’ve never bought this media if I knew it was made by CMC (I was assuming Ritek, because I know lots of Memorex discs are Ritek). Avoid this media at all costs!

Later on tonight I’ll try to post some scans, but if I don’t then I will sometime after Christmas…


#19

check the link i posted for software

And 20-30 cents for SL media sounds excellent. :iagree:
check the bargain basement for deals:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=119508
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=119023