[QUOTE=WiltonParmenter;2124367]Isn’t there a general code structure for PAPA and PAP 6 discs?[/QUOTE] Uhh, those ARE part of the codes. They’re two examples of the structure of the first 4 alphanumeric characters in hub codes of all CMC discs.
For example, I was reading that the back outer ring code on recent MIT Verbatim’s are in the format of ZDxxxx-DVR-xxxx while the inner ring starts with a numeric code.
All of Verbatim’s media has that ZDxxx… code, although more recent batches have been showing up with ZExxx…; this has nothing to do with which manufacturer made it [I don’t think; would love to be proven wrong].
For the inner code: if it’s made by CMC, it will always have PAPx [for 16x MCC DVD+R]. The ones starting with numbers are either Prodisc or MBI.
The inner ring on the older MIT Verbatim MCC004’s starting with PAPA.
As do some newer discs; it depends on which CMC plant the discs come from, if the discs come from CMC.
Do the MII discs have different values for “xxxx” above?
Probably…I’d imagine they change per disc.
The same can be asked of PAPA vs. PAP6?
Probably, but again, I think it changes per disc.
How can you tell even from the code?
You don’t look at the ZD/ZE code to try to figure out if it’s PAPx, etc. You have to look at the inner code that says it.
Looking at an old MCC004 I see the inner ring code starts with “PAPA09” and after a series of numbers, there’s a space with a 6.
Then it’s PAPA. You’re doing the first 4 letters [if it’s CMC]. That’s what you see when people refer to PAPA, PAP6, MAP7, etc.
I’ve also noticed that the new MIT Verbatim’s aren’t stamped with the following in white print on the front ring above and below the hole like the old MCC00’s were:
DVD +R 16x
Instead, the design and font on the disc have changed.
Yes, this is what the call the “neo-Verbatim” design. We noticed it a while back [search here in the Blank Media forum. :)]
Is there any site that lists inner ring code numbers with a lookup table for manufacturer?
Search the blank media forum…you will eventually find a post which tells you the general structure of the inner hub code vs who made it. And there are only 3 options…Prodisc, CMC, and MBI. You already know how to identify CMC. If you get made in Taiwan, with those numbers, it’s Prodisc. If you get made in India, it’s MBI.