in responce more to moloch more than anyone, the fact is that the game of capitalism would have eventually send the U.S and Canada into a downward spiral towards a revolution the reason that this is prevented is because of socialist reforms. Such as healthcare(canada) and so on Wellfare(both) and the likes. Anyway that's not the point, the point is we're talking about something for nothing, or are we? Music has been around for a long time, and people have been making money at it much longer then recordings have existed. The fact is that no matter how much online piracy goes on, if you like the band, you'll probably go to the concert. I think what a lot of us have always felt is that we go out buy a cd and get ripped off, maybe it only has 30 min of play or maybe only one song was any good. Or maybe we're sick of mainstream crap being shoved down our throats, and what pisses us off even more is that the people that control what gets out to the public are moving to control more of it by way of a deal with napster. I for one will say right now i will not pay for napster. I also think they are fairly arrogant to believe that napster is the only way us commoners can get the files in the first place, i remember ftps, websites, and irc, don't you? So, in some kind of screwed up closing. I think i speak for a lot of people when i say i hate most big corporations, i hate what has happened to what we listen to, what we watch, i think it's disgusting the monopolies that already exist and that i for one have no problem in doing something illegal to take a bit of that back, a little piece of control in a world that has been bought and sold to the highest bidder and where we're just waiting for someone to come and charge us for air. So capitalism may be the "game" but i think it's time we play something else.