Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R 25 Packs $15.99/free ship

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felch 2011-11-25 08:34:59 UTC #1

Optical Quantum 25GB 4X BD-R 25 Packs Logo Top Blu-ray Disc Model OQBDR04LT-25

Limit 5

$15.99 and free shipping.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607025

tmc8080 2011-11-25 11:07:09 UTC #2

Awesome deal… I already have Ridata blu rays on order… past the make changes point… for $1 more

tmc8080 2011-11-28 14:09:49 UTC #3

If this pricing is any indication of a trend… 2012 will be the year of blu ray!

Optical Quantum 50pk blu rays $30.99 f/s:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607054

Not too long ago you could easily pay $15-$30 for 100 dvds. 50 (single layer) blu rays are about equal to about 250 dvds… so $38 - $75 for $31 !!

deanwitty 2011-11-28 18:25:33 UTC #4

Also excited to see prices dropping.

For any of you new to BD-R purchasing, Vinpower/Optical Quantum has been purchasing their media from manufacturers who are notorious for poor quality control and set the standards for the minimum quality of the media leaving their factories entirely too low. I love a bargain as much as anyone, but what they have been selling ranges from cr@p to barely passable. Not a good gamble IMHO. As bad as they can be, I would probably trust a Ridata before the really low grade stuff that Optical Quantum is willing to sell you. Basing this on several purchases that ended up in the garbage, experiences of other people around the forums, and seller feedback that ranges from people all excited that they didn’t get any coasters(discs will likely be unusable in a year or two) to others who end up with 10 out of 10 coasters.

clsA 2011-11-30 15:41:54 UTC #5

[QUOTE=deanwitty;2613394]Also excited to see prices dropping.

Thanks for this info… I got a 25 pack of the rosewill disc( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182255 ) with the LITE-ON IHBS112-04 and it see’s them as 10x media …I did the first burn at 8x and it turned out nice.

what are the best media for this liteon …any ideas?

deanwitty 2011-12-01 11:11:32 UTC #6

[QUOTE=clsA;2613717]Thanks for this info… I got a 25 pack of the rosewill disc( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182255 ) with the LITE-ON IHBS112-04 and it see’s them as 10x media …I did the first burn at 8x and it turned out nice.

what are the best media for this liteon …any ideas?[/QUOTE]

When you say it turned out nice, does that mean you were able to quality-scan it? Your discs are probably CMC’s? Recently a better gamble than the MBI’s that Optical Quantum has been selling. The Philips CMC’s I tested recently were decent quality. But CMC, like MBI, are clearly pushing their stamper runs too far in pursuit of boosting profits. Checking reviews on those Rosewill’s, and I’m saddened to see people having the same problems I did with the Optical Quantums. Half a spindle gave usable burns, half gave skipping/freeze-up problems w/set-top Bluray players. Too many discs leaving the factory are marginal quality. Hoping you got lucky .
Cheapest top-tier BD-R’s currently are Smartblu’s and Verbatim 6x in my experience. The Smartblu’s are equivalent or better than made in Japan TDK’s which are selling for a much higher price. FTI added a tweak to the TDK design boosting longevity and read/write accuracy. FTI/Falcon and Panasonic are the only manufacturers to release the results of accelerated aging tests on their Blurays placing them in the 50+ year longevity category. Other manufacturers have undoubtedly tested theirs, we’re not hearing about the results. What do you suppose that means ;)? Just something to think about if price isn’t your only consideration.

clsA 2011-12-01 12:53:00 UTC #7

I didn’t do any kind of quality scan… I just picked a few random folders and copied them back to the hdd without error.

the media label from img burn

BD Disc Information:
Disc ID: PHILIP-R04-000
Disc Type: BD-R
Disc Size: 120mm
Disc Class: 0
Disc Version: 1
Number of Layers: 1
Layer Type: Writable
DVD Layer Present: No
CD Layer Present: No
Channel Bit Length: 74.5nm (25GB Per Layer)
Push-Pull Polarity: Positive
Recorded Mark Polarity: HTL
BCA Present: Yes
Maximum Transfer Rate: Not Specified
First PAA of Data Zone: 131,072
Last PAA of Data Zone: 1,658,494

Performance (Write Speed):
Descriptor 1…
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF)
-> RS: 35,960 KB/s (8x) - WS: 17,980 KB/s (4x)
Descriptor 2…
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF)
-> RS: 35,960 KB/s (8x) - WS: 26,970 KB/s (6x)
Descriptor 3…
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF)
-> RS: 35,960 KB/s (8x) - WS: 35,960 KB/s (8x)
Descriptor 4…
-> B0: 0x00, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
-> EL: 12219391 (0x00BA73FF)
-> RS: 35,960 KB/s (8x) - WS: 44,950 KB/s (10x)

I’ll be sure and pickup some verbatim media next time around
I’ll mostly be updating my backups and doing file storage …not really concerned with movie playback / burning at this point

thanks again for all the great information !

deanwitty 2011-12-01 18:28:23 UTC #8

Hate to be the one to tell you, but those PhilipR04 are the MBI-made junk. Same as the Optical quantum garbage I ended up having to throw away. DO NOT trust them for storing anything of importance. Unless it is something that does not have to last more than 6 months. All media deteriorates over time. Two things determine how long a disc will last. Initial burn quality and material/manufacturing quality. MBI PhilipR04’s are on the low side in both departments. Sorry.

bluestreak 2011-12-02 06:12:44 UTC #9

I purchased the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182255 deal and I get errors on 10x and 8x. 4x seem to burn ok. Haven’t tired 6x yet.

bluestreak 2011-12-02 08:05:48 UTC #10

Just burned a Rosewill 4x blu ray disk with LITE-ON IHBS112-04 burner using Nero at 6x. Burned ok, but would not read back–took forever and would sometimes lock up computer. Did the same burn (22.7gb) at 4x and read back fine.–took 23.6 minutes to burn. Ordered a pack of the Optical Quantum to play with so we will see how that goes.

deanwitty 2011-12-02 21:35:53 UTC #11

Just so there is no confusion. The decent Philips discs were Philips branded. Made by CMC in Taiwan with media code CMCMAG BA3. Philips has nothing to do with the media code PHILIPR04. They sold that a while back to MBI India. I have to believe that somehow I was not clear on that.
PHILIPR04 media have been among the worst recently. Many of the brands selling the cheapest BD-R’s are selling these.
Sure, its refreshing to see the prices dropping. But please don’t trust anything important to these discs. Their poor quality simply means that you will be pulling these burned discs out in the all-too-near future to discover that whatever you burned to them is lost.
Hey, I did just what you’re doing back when I started w/ BD-R’s. Fortunately I have not lost anything more important than replaceable movies. Glad I was timid about trusting important back-ups to the BD-R’s you’re buying.

Sorry for going on at length about this. Just wish there was some way to fast-forward everyone past the mistakes we all make when getting into something new

tmc8080 2011-12-16 02:55:04 UTC #12

Well, hopefully we can be educated about the truth of the media quality as it’s important to know which media might have a premature lifespan (shorter than average quality dvds). I don’t burn blu ray video as it’s not worth utilizing that much data on a disc for HD video. This leads me to a thought… are there any blue ray players that play all file types of hd video FILES inclusive of divx, xvid, h.264 on a regular data disc-- kind of like the way many dvd players now do and we’ve taken for granted?

My original pack was optical quantum, then rosewills, and now shiny new ridatas. My first OQ’s about a year ago seems to burn VERY WELL, and they had the ability to burn upto 10x, but mostly I burned @ 4x/6x to keep quality higher. The rosewills only allowed 4x and I sensed about 1/2 way into the pack that the readback speeds varied from crap to good. I have higher hopes for the ridatas… but I haven’t opened them yet… I’ll report back on my impressions as soon as I burn a few…