No more no more porn in Europe

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#1

European Porn Ban: EU Proposal Seeks To Regulate Internet, Ban ‘All Pornography In The Media’

A report that will be voted on in the European Union parliament March 12 could lay the groundwork for laws banning pornography across all media – including the Internet – and could potentially restrict civil liberties, free speech advocates claim.

I see you all have the same problem we have here in the USA when you try to ban Porn and anything like it they always say you are restricting free speech.

What are you all going to do without your porn on the internet?

#2

[QUOTE=samlar;2680290]European Porn Ban: EU Proposal Seeks To Regulate Internet, Ban ‘All Pornography In The Media’

A report that will be voted on in the European Union parliament March 12 could lay the groundwork for laws banning pornography across all media – including the Internet – and could potentially restrict civil liberties, free speech advocates claim.

I see you all have the same problem we have here in the USA when you try to ban Porn and anything like it they always say you are restricting free speech.

What are you all going to do without your porn on the internet?[/QUOTE]

That’s about much as they can do about pirating software. I haven’t seen that stop? lol… They can’t stop software pirating or movie pirating so they go after porn… Looks like they are trying to cover up their own porn activities incase the public get to see what kinda politicians they are.

#3

[QUOTE=samlar;2680290]What are you all going to do without your porn on the internet?[/QUOTE]

Internet is going to be much faster in speed without that large trafic. :iagree:

#4

How long are people going to sit back and let these tyranny hungry governments continue to erode their freedoms? It amazes me how the majority of people are oblivious to being the equivalent of cattle being led to the slaughter house.

#5

Even bigger institutions on this planet have tried for thousands of years to ban porn. They didn’t succeed. What makes them think this will ever succeed? :slight_smile:

#6

It is the fact they are even trying is what bothers me and should bother you. If someone came into your house, attempted to rob you but were caught in the act would you not want them punished? This is what many governments are doing on a regular basis with our most basic of freedoms and most people don’t seem to care. At some point they will succeed and take something you do care about.

As an example take a look at what is happening in NYC in the USA at the hands of Mayor Bloomberg. Salt shakers are banned from restaurant dining tables and amounts limited in meals, a person can only buy up to a 16 oz. soft drink (this increases waste and price), smoking is banned in [B][I]outdoor[/I][/B] public spaces, what type of fat you can eat in a restaurant is dictated, he banned food donations to home shelters on the grounds the food was unhealthy, restricted pain medication at hospitals for the poor because he thinks they get too much currently, has urged hospitals to not give new born babies formula in an effort to increase breast feeding and his latest nanny state effort is to tell New Yorkers how loud the music on their headphones can be. Can you imagine what tyranny Bloomberg would lay on people if he had unbridled power?

Like I said, we are cattle being lead to slaughter regarding our basic freedoms.

#7

I don’t like porn, and I exercise my right to not watch it. That doesn’t mean that other should be banned from viewing porn. If someone is pushing porn in my face, then that would be a different matter.
Basically, if porn is clearly labeled as such, then I have no problem with it, and I don’t think it should be banned.

I don’t smoke either, and I would certainly object to people smoking in a public area where I’m present, as they are forcing me to smoke as well. So I’m for smoking being banned in public places as it is in the UK, as I have rights too.

#8

[QUOTE=Dee;2680376]Basically, if porn is clearly labeled as such, then I have no problem with it, and I don’t think it should be banned.[/QUOTE]
Just make sure that people don’t get the wrong results, when searching for Ferrari. :bigsmile:

I don’t smoke either, and I would certainly object to people smoking in a public area where I’m present, as they are forcing me to smoke as well.

If people think they have the right to smoke where I’m present, I think that I have the right to fart next to these people - although farting is probably not as unhealthy as smoking.

And for everyone else: Despite my avatar, I do not smoke myself - I rather hate the smell

#10

[QUOTE=Dee;2680376]I don’t smoke either, and I would certainly object to people smoking in a public area where I’m present, as they are forcing me to smoke as well. So I’m for smoking being banned in public places as it is in the UK, as I have rights too.[/QUOTE]

How about a person smoking in Central Park in NYC in the middle of a five acre pasture with now one around them? This is what Bloomberg has done. The smoking ban is in ANY public space no matter how uninhabited it may be.

I don’t smoke and have no problem with banning smoking in crowded areas. The NYC ban is going WAY beyond this. Also, limiting a person from buying a drink larger that 16 oz. is nothing more than a politician on a power trip.

We have elected politicians here in the USA that are publicly stating that the US Constitution is a tired old rag that should be discarded. When I hear this I wonder how people like this get elected time after time. I guess many people don’t bother to think about what, or who, they are voting for. People like Aaron Swartz saw what is happening here in the USA, as do others, but there are way too many that are either too ignorant to see or are too lazy to care.

The very fact that there are people in positions of authority in Europe that think it is within there power to restrict the free flow of information in such a major way makes me nervous. What is next on their RADAR screen after porn? Do you think they will stop there?

#11

I’m not going to get into politics, but only to say a public place is a public place, no matter how many people are in that place.

#12

If the reason to limit smoking is to protect people who do not smoke there is no reason to ban smoking in all public places. Then it becomes an exercise in exerting control over people just for the sake of it.

#13

Let’s try to keep the topic relevant…please. Analogies only go so far before we’ve completely abandoned the original purpose of the post/article/whatever, and I think this smoking analogy has been exhausted.

#14

Porn is the first thing to ban, if the governments can get porn then they can ban anything. There is some porn out there I find just nasty, I don’t look at it! The is some porn out there that is close to art, I look at that :slight_smile:

Porn in the U.S.A. took off in the 80’s with the introduction of the VHS and Reagan. The last great US president did not back porn but he did believe in freedom of expression.

#15

It was only in 2008 or 2009 that the UK made explicit material legal.
I would think that any member state that has a porn industry would be unlikely to vote for a ban, and even if the bill does go through they would just opt out, which any member state is entitled to do.

#16

Just incase anyone is still interested, here is the result of the vote, and what it means.

#17

They could never ban porn, its up to the person, if you want to watch it then so be it. I don’t judge anyone, its not my style, but to each his own.:slight_smile:

#18

They can ban anything they want. The question is can they enforce the ban. If they think they can enforce the ban then that is when our personal freedom will be severely eroded. This is called the “Slippery Slope.”

#19

[QUOTE=Dee;2680376]I don’t like porn, and I exercise my right to not watch it. That doesn’t mean that other should be banned from viewing porn. If someone is pushing porn in my face, then that would be a different matter.
Basically, if porn is clearly labeled as such, then I have no problem with it, and I don’t think it should be banned.

I don’t smoke either, and I would certainly object to people smoking in a public area where I’m present, as they are forcing me to smoke as well. So I’m for smoking being banned in public places as it is in the UK, as I have rights too.[/QUOTE]
Dee, I :iagree:
And I think the topic is totally misleading in general.

AFAIR the EU parlament’s voting on “this matter” was about womans [in general] exploiting/ abuse, as seen all ower the Internet nowdays.
Disgusting.

#20

If they create a ban then attempt to enforce the ban, all they
will accomplish is making themselves as ridiculous as their new law.

#21

[QUOTE=AllanDeGroot;2680956]If they create a ban then attempt to enforce the ban, all they
will accomplish is making themselves as ridiculous as their new law.[/QUOTE]

You are greatly underestimating how ridiculous a politician can become. If they are ridiculous enough to past a law then they are certainly ridiculous enough to try and enforce it. As an example we can look at Bloomberg’s 16+ ounce soda ban. :doh: