[newsimage]http://static.rankone.nl/images_posts/2013/01/6pNkT4.jpg[/newsimage]The website VGleaks has posted more information about Microsoft's upcoming next generation console, the successor of the Xbox 360. Read the full article here: [http://www.myce.com/news/new-xbox-720-durango-to-feature-blu-ray-drive-65818/](http://www.myce.com/news/new-xbox-720-durango-to-feature-blu-ray-drive-65818/) Please note that the reactions from the complete site will be synched below.
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Hopefully it will be designed properly from 1st Gen and not have a secondary use as a noisy space heater
[QUOTE=rexroach;2674226]Hopefully it will be designed properly from 1st Gen and not have a secondary use as a noisy space heater[/QUOTE]
Or a great way to eat discs!
So they’re going back to the original Xbox concept of basing it on current PC hardware.
First Xbox was rock solid because it was well built and not “physically designed” by them. It was outsourced to competent hardware designers.
360 while having an amazing and true next-gen CPU/GPU and unified architecture design, had an extremely poor physical design and build as we all know. For example the placement and the way the GPUs and CPU’s and sockets were designed to sit on the motherboard were so cheap and poor it caused them to “melt” off the socket and cause the infamous RRODs. Failure rates were probably over 90% on 360’s built in the first few years. I have never known any 360 early adopter that didn’t have their 360 fail at some point.
This all happened because MS decided to cut corners in every way possible and also physically design the boxes themselves. They thought they knew what they were doing. They didn’t and it took years of redesigns to make it stable.
Another example, the DVD ROM was made of cheapest possible plastic. They actually removed mechanisms in the drive to make the discs “stable” in the drive, in order to cut cost of the BOM.
360 did have the worlds first directX 10 GPU a year before DX10 cards came to the PC. They had a dev deal with ATI to develop and manufacture the GPUs.
I would like to see the 720 also come with a GPU that is ahead of any PC GPU today. And I really hope they learned from their multi billion dollar mistakes and release a reliable system like first Xbox.
I do agree. My Xbox1 never died. It’s a bit dusty and plugged into the bedroom TV but it still works.
As for the 360s. My original one never died on my specifically, but I replaced it with a newer one so I could have an HDMI port. So I have my original one to a friend. He used it for a few years and gave it to the kid of a friend of his. It RROD’d on the kid (but did seem to last longer than most of the other original units).
The new one I had with the HDMI port (Falcon?) lasted a while but it RRoD nearly 3 years ago while playing red dead redemption. The Falcon model originally was supposed to prevent the RRoD but it didn’t. I replaced the Falcon with a Jasper model, and it still works. I haven’t needed to upgrade to a slim.
I had a friend who had it worse. Once he got an RRoD he tried to get MS to fix it, and got caught in an endless loop of refurb’s with RRoD’s.
I’ll give MS another chance though. Other than the build quality I was quite happy with the 360. I guess what I’m looking for in the next generation is a bluray drive (I ended up buying a ps3 after my 360 just for bluray), graphics, and the ability to play used games.
If one of the new consoles really goes out of its way to prevent used, rented, or borrowed games, I’ll easily by the other one. It’d get so expensive if I couldn’t swap games with friends or buy used ones from the store.
I had my original Xbox (purchased somewhere around 2002, after my original launch Xbox was hit by lightning) die around 2009 or early 2010. Capacity leaked/failed, making it able to turn on but not boot. Given my lack of ability with solder and such, I just trashed it, sadly.
But got an Xbox 360 the following Christmas, so it’s performed well for 2 years and change of original Xbox games (those actually supported through emulation) and Xbox 360 games. It seems happy enough to deal with hot environments, so I can’t really complain except for the noisy disc drive. I still don’t understand why noise damping was the lowest priority on a system that requires discs to be spun at 12x or 16x for somewhat speedy loading times, but I only have one game that does not support installation to HDD, so it’s not a huge problem for me.
Hopefully they take the good qualities of the original Xbox, as well as the moderate power consumption + decent power of the completely revised 360, and applied those concepts as they designed the newest console.