Nero integrates video content protection system from Philips and HP

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Nero Integrates Video Content Protection System from Philips and HP for Nero Digital™ recordings Nero-based Digital Video Solutions Incorporate Innovative Video Content Protection…

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When Nero stops doing what the customer wants and begins catering to corporations, I believe that will be the beginning of the end of Nero. Private customers will turn to burning solutions that meet THEIR needs. At least, that is what I will do.

good bye nero you brown nosedd B******s you served me well but standing on the wrong side of the fence will leave you there with the rest of the loosers :frowning:

excuse me, but i couldn’t get the message from this PR jibberish could someone please explain how is this bad for the consumer how does it affect me

em sorry guys to ask but how old are you? i mean have you read the article?do you understand what it says?have you any idea what is the situation?nero gives now to the user/consumer/bussiness company etc who creates media content with the nero software, the ability to protect the created content media. i am a simple user who creates home dvds as a hobby and i welcome this feature of the nero suit. now all this ala viva revolutione negative attitude from you towards nero because it did something in order to improve its product well its something i cant understand-you are americans right? jesus

The reason people are bitching about this feature is because with any feature, it’s optional now, but after a few versions it will be mandatory for creating/burning content.

Right. Because you will be so protected! It’s absolutely ridiculous for a home user to think that copy protection that is released by companies that cant effectively pull it off themselves will be protected. What is so important that you have to put a hurdle up?

…I only want to duplicate ONEs and Zero’s… I suppose I can find a way(!) to make my master simply look like one’s and zero’s? :slight_smile:

As they say in the Capital One commercial, Ne-NO.

Ominus…it’s all about choice and the hypocracy of those who would take away our right to choose…I’m thinking nero (along with the others) in their early stages didn’t give a ratz arz HOW consumers used their product as long as the money went over the counter into their coffers…and NOW they take the corporate moral high ground??..:X

Up until now Nero did all right steps but this will be first step to their doom…

sherrif wtf are you talking about? what morals, choices and green horses are you saying? the nero company wanted to improve its product and did it so with adding this protection feature(working or not is another matter to discuss)-this feature is optional,u can use it if u like or not,it isnt the arrival of the dark ages.nore the doom of the free world. now if some here believe that with this kind of action nero became one big bad company who hate consumers because they saw the word protection in its press releases well goodnight guys and send me a letter when you wake up…

Don’t expect any mail real soon…:X

Do my home movies REALLY need to be copy protected? Jeez, if anyone is so desparate as to try to “pirate” my home movies, then that person really has a problem.:d I guess this is Nero’s way of being allowed to provide a way to copy protected DVD’s in their future releases. This way they can say that the user can only make one copy. Didn’t really work for Sony’s MD’s and the DAT/DCC crap that was attempted to be foisted onto the general public back in the early-mid '90’s. The “selling” point for those devices was that the content could not be copied from a copy, but you could make a million copies from the original source anyway, so why bother with such a dumb copy protection method? For true pirates, its a small investment to buy a few original CD’s or DVD’s and make a boatload of copies using the originals. Instead this will hurt the small bands and filmmakers who can get their names out there by people sharing copies of copies of their work. :r

What SupremeCheddar said above pretty much hits the bull’s-eye! I’ve been in the computing industry nearly 20 years and I have seen a lot of optional stuff became mandatory after a few years (back in those days). Current evolution, probably mandatory in the next few versions of Nero…It does look pretty bad for us as consumers…Think about it! :X
[edited by icepax on 13.01.2005 14:06]

“sorry guys to ask but how old are you?” “you are americans right? jesus” What makes certain people make complete asses of themselves? Pull it out of your rectum ominus and go copy protect your home videos.

paranoia, like one poster already said just use something else.

So with this feature, it will also adheere to that stupid broadcast flag that hte US is imposing…so what about us Crazy Canucks who get US affiliates…if we try to dump our feeds to dvd, since I use a DVB card with Cam, am I no longe rgoing ot be able to record my shows to dvd and then copy em for someone else? Grrrrreat way of making sure to cover your a$$, goodbye nero

Even paranoiacs can have real enemies. Once upon a time there was a phrase, “fair use,” which allowed one to make, for example, a Philips audio cassette copy of their LP (ask Granny), 8-track (ditto), cassette tape, reel-to-reel, all were commercially produced music. And – prepare yourself, Sparky – give that copy to yourself, a friend or even a homeless person for them to listen. The idea, protected by judicial ruling, is that listening to the music which you bought was your right as long as you didn’t make dozens/thousands of copies and give/sell them to just everybody. It even helped to sell more albums. Years later, when people started to do the same thing with movies on their new-fangled video recorders, then President of the MPAA, Jack Valente, stated it would be the death of Hollywood. Not a bad outcome, and of course that’s just exactly what happened. right? No, actually most of the cr*p movies produced by Hollywood now stand a chance of mebbe breaking even, and only because of advances in video technology. Flash from the Wayback Machine: “Entertainment Industry predicts collapse of music perfomances due to flagrant sales of player piano rolls. Asks Congress to save them from technology’s icey grip.” That’s for real, BTW. Back in the present: Digital security specialists and your local neighborhood hacker all agree that you cannot digitally protect a digital product. This may be because: the digital tools to protect it are the same ones to use it are the same ones to reverse it. Duh. By inept analogy, you can also unweave a rug or even cut it into throwrugs with a pocket knife. Use a machette. It’s faster. Yes, sharpen it first, Sparkey. So, why don’t we have a major problem with people copying books on photocopiers and spreading around copies willy-nilly in disregard of the poor starving publishers? Did we outlaw photocopiers? No. Books are priced so low that it’s not worth the crime to copy it. Interesting principle, that. What shall we call it? How about, “Free Market”? That means no laws to favor the powerful at the expense of civilization and culture. Instead, when a new technology changes the economic rules in a previously profitable market, the market adapts or disappears. So far, the entertainment industry has adapted just fine. But, like the butt dragging the dog, they still see every techno innovation as a dire threat to their 3-piece suits and trophy wives. Now, lets see what the market does with Nero. We already know what’s going to happen to Dopey Rights Mangle-ment: They’re sweeping the ocean off the beach. ride the shockwave greets you know who you are

I always get a chuckle at the carefully-worded press-releases that try to make content-protection sexy to the consumer. Check these choice words out for size: --------- “Content protection is essential in any electronic content distribution system to safeguard a healthy business model”, says Richard Lesser, CEO of Nero AG. 'With VCPS, Nero Digital becomes suitable for digital content delivery". 'Adding VCPS to the Nero Digital offering unlocks interesting new applications with DVD+R/+RW", says Menno Treffers, Project Manager VCPS, Philips. 'With new video coding technologies like AVC/H.264, High Definition quality on DVD+R/+RW becomes reality. VCPS provides for the right level of security to enable commercial High Definition video applications". --------- First paragraph there makes it sound like Nero isn’t yet suitable for digital content delivery without this latest magic feature. In the second paragraph there, surely Menno Treffers meant to say “Adding VCPS to the Nero Digital offering LOCKS interesting new applications with DVD+R/+RW”, and not “unlocks”? :g The high-definition line right after it tries to obscure an unrelated feature with the content protection, as if to prop it up and make it sound impressive to the layman. Nice try Nero. The claws are out, and rightly so.