Thompson multimedia have been boasting about AACPlus being CD quality at 48kbps - 64kbps ever since the introduction of MP3Pro, but no one will provide any sort of player, samples or anything else to show this! :c If a mate said that he has the fastest, most fuel efficient, most high tech car in the country, but refuses to let you see it, would you believe what that person's saying? Oops. Microsoft claim their WMA format is CD quality at 64Kbps. To see this, bring up Windows Media player 7 (or higher), Click 'Tools -> Options...', click the 'CD Audio' tab and drag the slider down until it shows '64 Kbps (CD Quality)'. Seems impresive until one trys encoding their music and finds out what it really sounds like.