Wow, really?! That's interesting. The one that plays in my computer but not in my sony blu ray is SAW 5. I couldn't get SAW 6 to work at all. Not only that but it took over 6 hours to rip SAW 6. I've backed up probably 30 blu rays or so, and the average rip time has been around 45 minutes. But SAW 6 took over 6 hours. Tell you exactly what it does. When I first put SAW 6 in my Sony 360 bluray player and start it, there is a little red and white "spiral" that shows on the screen as the disc is loading, right? Well, I can see that on my LCD TV screen, but after the disc loads and the little 'spiral' icon disappears, there is nothing but a black screen. I just got through backing up my blu ray copy of "HELL RIDE" and it worked perfectly. I never changed any settings at all. Assuming I'm having a firmware problem with the 2 SAW movies, how can i fix the problem? I don't see any areas on the disc that would allow me to download anything as far as updating the firmware.