NEC3500a Riplock removal not working

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#1

I have a NEC 3500a and I installed Liggy & Dee’s 1.4 firmware yesterday. Previously I had been ripping VERY slow 2MB/s and I installed the new firmware restarted and I ripped a single layer disc at 8MB/s. I was very happy with that. I popped in a dual layer disc today(i have restarted since yesterday) and it ripped very slow again 2MB/s and I tried a single layer disc as well and it also ripped slow 2MB/s. What happened to my fast speeds. I checked my device manager on my secondary IDE channel which my drive is on it says Ultra DMA 2, so I dont think that is the problem. If you need any additional information just tell me what you need and I will post it. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.


#2

Check your drive with a burned - or + R disc and see what you get for rip time and max speed with DVDDcrypter and let us know. It should be 5 minutes and start at 7.5X ending at 16X or so. That is what I get with factory firmware, this should at least let you know if the problem is hardware or firmware.


#3

Eject the disc several times and retry. Also reboot PC. Can you test the rip speed by running DVD Speedtest. Make sure AnyDVD is running in the background or you will not be able to read the protected media.


#4

Here are results with a Dual layer Movie DVD

Nero CD Speed Test results

General Information

Operating System Windows XP
Drive _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG
Firmware Version 2.18
Serial Number 4XBEL51S112
Disc DVD-ROM
Capacity 7.24 GB

Transfer Rate

Start 2.99x
End 7.15x
Average 5.52x
Type CAV

Seek Times

Random 157 ms
1/3 165 ms
Full 225 ms

CPU Usage

1X 7 %
2X 14 %
4X 80 %
8X n/a

Interface

Burst Rate 27074 KB/sec

Spin Up/Down Times

Spin Up Time 1.96 sec
Spin Down Time 1.49 sec

Load/Eject Times

Load Time 16.45 sec
Eject Time 1.77 sec
Recognition Time 3.03 sec

Log

Time Elapsed Action
[19:48:25] Starting Transfer Rate Test
[20:06:03] 17:38 Speed:3-7 X CAV (5.52 X average)
[20:06:03] Starting Seek Times Test
[20:06:19] Random Seek: 157 ms
[20:06:36] 1/3 Seek: 165 ms
[20:06:58] 0:55 Full Seek: 225 ms
[20:06:58] Starting CPU Usage Test
[20:07:13] CPU usage at 1X: 7 %
[20:07:29] CPU usage at 2X: 14 %
[20:07:44] CPU usage at 4X: 80 %
[20:08:15] 1:17 CPU usage at 8X: n/a
[20:08:15] Starting Burst Rate Test
[20:08:17] 0:02 Interface burst rate: 26 MB/sec (27074 KB/sec)
[20:08:17] Starting Spin-Up/Down Test
[20:08:21] Spin-up time: 1.96 seconds
[20:08:32] 0:15 Spin-down time: 1.49 seconds
[20:08:32] Starting Load/Eject Test
[20:08:34] Eject time: 1.77 seconds
[20:08:51] Load time: 16.45 seconds
[20:08:54] 0:22 Recognition time: 3.03 seconds


#5

Here are results with a single layer burned Ridata disk

Nero CD Speed Test results

General Information

Operating System Windows XP
Drive _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG
Firmware Version 2.18
Serial Number 4XBEL51S112
Disc DVD+R
Capacity 4.36 GB

Transfer Rate

Start 3.29x
End 7.98x
Average 11.01x
Type P-CAV

Seek Times

Random 131 ms
1/3 163 ms
Full 266 ms

CPU Usage

1X 9 %
2X 16 %
4X 28 %
8X 78 %

Interface

Burst Rate 27153 KB/sec

Spin Up/Down Times

Spin Up Time 4.10 sec
Spin Down Time 2.44 sec

Load/Eject Times

Load Time 12.36 sec
Eject Time 1.77 sec
Recognition Time 14.91 sec

Log

Time Elapsed Action
[19:48:25] Starting Transfer Rate Test
[20:06:03] 17:38 Speed:3-7 X CAV (5.52 X average)
[20:06:03] Starting Seek Times Test
[20:06:19] Random Seek: 157 ms
[20:06:36] 1/3 Seek: 165 ms
[20:06:58] 0:55 Full Seek: 225 ms
[20:06:58] Starting CPU Usage Test
[20:07:13] CPU usage at 1X: 7 %
[20:07:29] CPU usage at 2X: 14 %
[20:07:44] CPU usage at 4X: 80 %
[20:08:15] 1:17 CPU usage at 8X: n/a
[20:08:15] Starting Burst Rate Test
[20:08:17] 0:02 Interface burst rate: 26 MB/sec (27074 KB/sec)
[20:08:17] Starting Spin-Up/Down Test
[20:08:21] Spin-up time: 1.96 seconds
[20:08:32] 0:15 Spin-down time: 1.49 seconds
[20:08:32] Starting Load/Eject Test
[20:08:34] Eject time: 1.77 seconds
[20:08:51] Load time: 16.45 seconds
[20:08:54] 0:22 Recognition time: 3.03 seconds
[20:18:57] Starting Transfer Rate Test
[20:24:39] 5:43 Speed:3-8 X P-CAV (11.01 X average)
[20:24:39] Starting Seek Times Test
[20:24:53] Random Seek: 131 ms
[20:25:09] 1/3 Seek: 163 ms
[20:25:36] 0:56 Full Seek: 266 ms
[20:25:36] Starting CPU Usage Test
[20:25:51] CPU usage at 1X: 9 %
[20:26:07] CPU usage at 2X: 16 %
[20:26:23] CPU usage at 4X: 28 %
[20:26:38] 1:02 CPU usage at 8X: 78 %
[20:26:38] Starting Burst Rate Test
[20:26:41] 0:02 Interface burst rate: 27 MB/sec (27153 KB/sec)
[20:26:41] Starting Spin-Up/Down Test
[20:26:46] Spin-up time: 4.10 seconds
[20:26:59] 0:18 Spin-down time: 2.44 seconds
[20:26:59] Starting Load/Eject Test
[20:27:01] Eject time: 1.77 seconds
[20:27:13] Load time: 12.36 seconds
[20:27:28] 0:30 Recognition time: 14.91 seconds



#6

Yo-

Did you just happen to flash your 3500 with the “Quiet” version?

If you did - that may explain your slow down-

BTW - that graph above looks forever like a “Create Data Disc” curve - not a “Transfer Speed” curve-

Mike


#7

Speed looks good with DL media. SL media is just okay, probably because the burn is not very good. Rip lock is DEFINITELY “removed”.


#8

ok. look this answer ===> www.s_w_NEC_3500._i.com


#9

You seem to be good at this so I am asking you. I flashed my 3500 with NEC 2.18 (218btrpc1). It went OK and I can now see the bitsetting is active. When I rip (DL) with DVDDcrypter I start at 1X, leading me to believe that riplock is still there. This firmware should have removed it so I am at a loss. DMA is OK.

Thanks


#10

furballi’s post is correct, the “riplock” is removed.
It depends on the used media and it’s quality & content.
NEC burners are poor readers and DL media is harder to manage…


#11

Sometimes, I need to eject the media, and restart DVD Decrypter several times. Not sure if it’s related to this FW. Also recheck you speed using DVD Speedtest.