You can get bitsetting for the NEC if you use a hacked firmware. If you are not comfortable with a hacked firmware, then the NEC would be problematic, as bitsetting is almost a requirement if you intend to burn double-layer media.
If you are comfortable with using hacked firmwares, then you might even consider the 2500A and the 812S.
I would not get the NEC simply due to the fact that once NEC puts the drive out, that is all you get. They add new media to there firmwares and not much more. If you compare the NEC with official fw to most other drives with official fw who wins the features comparrison. In the last couple of months we have seen several manufacturers provide documentation for adding support for there drives to DVDInfoPro and Nero testing tools, but nothing form NEC. OEM versions of the NEC drive support bitsetting (HP) but NEC simply refuses. Wouldn’t it be nice if we didn’t need to hack our drives to get the features we really want. I do realize that the writing quality for the NEC 2500 + is better than most, but NEC’s customer support is not even close.
Yeah, bye the Lite-On, you get things like bitsetting that is supported by the manufacturer. The only reason the NEC is held in such high regard is Herrie’s firmwares. Its not a bad drive with original firmware, but not great.
Yeah, might want to let them announce the drive officially first.
There’s also the question of Pioneer’s support of bitsetting. Which is, they don’t. Even though asked by customers to include +R/+RW bitsetting for the DVR-A06 and A07 drives, Pioneer hasn’t, instead referring people to use -R/-RW media instead. (Surprise, surprise.)
Well, we’ll see if that holds true for dual layer -R as well.
Remember also that the original announcements about dual layer -R were 1x rated. That’s a long time to burn a DVD.
But now I think that the initial launch is supposed to be 2x writing, still slower than +R DL, although not as bad.
Of course, by the time Pioneer and the DVD Forum manage to actually approve a spec and get units into production, I’m guessing 4x DVD+R DL might be available.
Well, it is still in Beta, so there have been times where the write strategy for a disc was incorrect or some issues appeared. The latest one seems very stable with great write quality.
You don’t have to go with herrie’s full-on hacked firmware. Someone made available a version of the HP firmware, modified only to remove rip-lock, make it region-free, and allow it to be flashed to ND2500A drives. None of the write strategies were changed, and no other hacks were implemented. The HP firmware has the bitsetting, so you could use that if you’re concerned about herrie’s changes.
That said, I haven’t run into any problems using herrie’s 1.07 V2 Beta 5 firmware on my ND2500A, with either my single layer media or dual layer media.
Supposedly, there is an issue with ProdiscS03 media, I believe, where the 6x portion of the writes is very bad, and herrie was working on that. I didn’t notice it with my ProdiscS03 media though when I wrote it at 6x. Discs played fine in my DVD player and DVDinfoPro reported no errors on the disc.