Nec nd-1000a, nd-1100a, nd-1300a

Read it first here. It seems that there are Verbatim 2.4x DVD+R drives based on either Ricoh MP5125A or NEC ND-1000A.

And at OfficeMax (US) - http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60812 $199 or $169?

You can compare the specification of various DVD+RW drives from the following pages.

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/pc/overview.html (1st Gen.)
http://www.dvdplusrw.org/pc/overview_dvdplusr.html (2nd Gen.)
http://www.dvdplusrw.org/pc/overview_next_gen.html (Next Gen. meaning anything other than the original Ricoh MP5120A and MP5125A designs)

I just opened by Verbatim DVD+RW drive from officemax and found that the drive inside is a NEC ND-1000A .

If you look closely at the label, you can tell that the FCC ID is for a ND-1100A. This drive looks exactly the same as ND-1100A in physical appearance. Seems like it is a ND-1100A with a different firmware. Since ND-1100A came into the market before ND-1000A
I am wondering if this drive (ND-1000A) can be upgraded to a 4X dual format drive (ND-1100A).

Is there a ND-1100A firmware available somewhere ?

Thanks for the info! No, I haven’t found a firmware for ND-1100A yet but I’ll have to look for one. I’ve been very seriously considering to buy ND-1100A as well (for $180 in Tokyo.)

This is very interesting, if you get hold of the firmware please let us know if it works or not. :stuck_out_tongue:

Last week’s DVD writer prices in Tokyo.

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20021221/price.html

Panasonic OEM DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM/CD-R/CD-RW writer for 28,780 Yen (US$240.)

Sony DRU-500A OEM Buffalo’s DVM-4222FB DVD+R/DVD+RW/DVD-R/DVD-RW/CD-R/CD-RW writer for 32,499 Yen (US$270.)

NEC ND-1100A OEM IO DATA’s DVR-ABN4P DVD+R 4x/DVD+RW 2.4x/16x CD-R/10x CD-RW writer for 22,980 Yen (US$190.)

TDK 4x DVD+R/2.4x DVD+RW - looks like another NEC ND-1100A OEM.

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/cgi/forum/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=6;t=4267

http://www.tdk.com/dvdburners/indidvd4xspecs.html

http://www.tdk.com/tecpress/indidvd.html (Press Release)

http://www.dvdplusrw.org/pc/overview_next_gen.html (Next Gen. DVD+R Specification)

Here are the details of ND-1100A from fcc site

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/oet/forms/reports/Search_Form.hts?mode=Edit&form=Exhibits&application_id=157982&fcc_id=A3DND-1100A

It includes the pictures of internals and manuals also.

Originally posted by wen1
Here are the details of ND-1100A from fcc site

https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/oet/forms/reports/Search_Form.hts?mode=Edit&form=Exhibits&application_id=157982&fcc_id=A3DND-1100A

It includes the pictures of internals and manuals also.

Thanks! How useful. I downloaded all 11 PDF files.

Generous KBench.com allows any member to post picture files up to 200KB per each and even link them. This is captured from the file 273163 ID Label and Location.pdf which I downloaded from the FCC server and renamed.

There are some Korean characters on the top according to which the tested NEC ND-1100A drive sample was manufactured in NEC THK Limited, Malaysia. In July 2002.

One of the internal pictures.

Is there a way to tell how many heads the drive has by looking at this picture ?

now guys…can you tell me which is better…the NEC ND-1100A drive or the Sony DRU-500a ?

i don’t care about the CD writing,as i own a 40x plex.
i just need it as a dual DVD writer…

can you help me please?

Originally posted by NoLimit
now guys…can you tell me which is better…the NEC ND-1100A drive or the Sony DRU-500a ?

i don’t care about the CD writing,as i own a 40x plex.
i just need it as a dual DVD writer…

can you help me please?

What do you mean by “dual” DVD writer? DVD writers that can write to DVD+RW and DVD-RW? So far, only Sony DRU-500A can do that.

Originally posted by Kenshin
[B]

What do you mean by “dual” DVD writer? DVD writers that can write to DVD+RW and DVD-RW? So far, only Sony DRU-500A can do that. [/B]

did i understand this the wrong way?


Technical Data - MultiSpin 4X DVD± Writer

Product name: ND-1100A

Data transfer rate

  • Read
    DVD: 12x CAV (max.16,200 Kbyte/s)
    CD: 40x CAV (max. 6,000 Kbyte/s) - write
    DVD-R: 4x, 2x (5,400/2,700 Kbyte/s)
    DVD-RW: 2x, 1x (2,700/1,350 Kbyte/s)
    DVD+R: 4x, 2.4x (5,400/3,240 Kbyte/s)
    DVD+RW: 2.4x (3,240 Kbyte/s)
    CD-R: 16x (2,400 Kbyte/s)
    CD-RW: 10x (1,500 Kbyte/s)
  • Access time
    DVD: 140 ms
    CD: 120 ms
  • Memory: 2 MBytes
  • Interface: ATAPI Ultra DMA 33 mode 2 & PIO Mode 4
  • Audio connections:Headphone, volume control, analog- and digital output
  • Media supported: DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, CD-ROM, CD-R and CD-RW with 80mm and 120mm diameter
  • Modes supported: DVD-ROM, DVD Video, CD-DA, CD Extra, CD Text, CD-ROM, CD-ROM XA, CD-I, CD-I Ready, CD-Bridge, Photo-CD, Video CD - Writing methods
    DVD: Random Access Writing (DVD±RW) & Sequential Writing (DVD±R/DVD±RW)
    CD: DAO (disc at once), SAO (session at once), TAO (track at once) with zero gap, variable or fixed packet, multisession
  • Special features
    Vertical operation possible
    Anti-dust seal
    PC 2001 Certification
    MultiRead compliant
  • ACTOPC – dynamically monitoring writing power and reflection of the media in use, calculating the optimum laser power and adjusting it to real-time.
  • Platforms supported: Windows 98SE, 2000, ME, XP, Windows NT 4.0 Availability: Nov. 2002

from http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.asp?RelatedID=2832


as i see it,this thing can do all…please advice…

The dual format version of the ND-1100A is not available yet, only the DVD+R/RW version (as OEM with Dell computers and in Japan from IOdata). The retail DVD±R/RW version should be released soon (in January).

The DVD writing specs are the same as the Sony DRU-500A. But on the paper (from the user manual linked to above) the ND-1100A should be faster at reading DVD media (incl. DVD±R/RW and CSS-encrypted DVD’s). The ND-1100A will also be cheaper than the DRU-500A (I can pre-order it for about $130 less than the Sony).

I would recommend you to wait until the ND-1100A is released and then read some user reviews of it to find out if it has any problems (like media compability) and then decide which one to buy.

For now, NEC ND-1100A is a 4x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW drive.

There are

NEC ND-1100A OEM - from IO DATA in Japan: 4x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW

NEC ND-1100A OEM - from DELL Computers in the USA: 4x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW

NEC ND-1000A OEM - from Verbatim in the USA: 2.4x DVD+R and 2.4x DVD+RW

and I feel that NEC and Verbatim (Mitsubishi) are leaning more towards DVD+RW.

When the drive was manufactured in July this year, it was obviously one that could write to DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW, CD-R, and CD-RW. Maybe that is why some European NEC sites have different specifications and model names. It often happens with overseas websites of LG and Samsung when the headquarter changes something for the same product model. What NEC will do in order to minimize customer confusion I don’t know. Maybe the one with DVD-R and DVD-RW writability to be renamed to ND-1100B or ND-1200A? Anyway, here is one more picture captured from the User Manual file.

According to wen (a member here and at DVDplusRW) -

Its on sale again this week for $169 so you can get it for $139 if you have any coupons.

Also mentioned at DVD-SVCD and the CD Freaks Bargain Basement forum.

Don’t complain to me even if you cannot get one at that price but I am sure that most of us will be able to buy a better machine for less in a few months.

thanks for explaining to me…i appreciate it guys…
the best thing to do is to wait till the end of january then.
i’m not on hurry now…will wait a month…no problem…
btw,is dvd a good data backup solution?
as i’ll use it 80% for this purpose…

Originally posted by NoLimit
thanks for explaining to me…i appreciate it guys…
the best thing to do is to wait till the end of january then.
i’m not on hurry now…will wait a month…no problem…
btw,is dvd a good data backup solution?
as i’ll use it 80% for this purpose…

Why not? Data backup is easier than CD Audio, games, bootable software, DVD-Video, etc. But better rely on highest quality media if the data is very important.

Thanks to Ian at CDRLabs.com forum,

CenDyne DVD-RW Drive - $129.99 @ Office Max

The drive is also based on Pioneer DVR-A04.

2x DVD-R
1x DVD-RW