& raygay ... to me, bitsetting isn't just that, at least not to my old sony dvd-rom. Personally, i don't use bittsetting at all, just no need. Anyway, my old dvd-rom will read a bitsetted dvd+r @max-speed(13x+), but a normal dvd+r @6x. So, if u bitsetted a dvd+r to dvd-rom, the player will actually treat it as a dvd-rom!!
Since i do a data scan on every burn with my old sony, I shouldn't use bitsetting at all cause it will read it too fast from around 2.5GB and lost the focus point which will slow down the drive to 1x :Z
and thx Liggy & Dee for the great works
but since i'm quite happy with the original NEC pack, i guess i'll wait for the next big thing from u guys