NEC 3500 and 3520. A scan comparison with 6 Media

vbimport

#1

Well, I decided to do something about the numerous comparisons and questions as to whether the NEC 3500 was that much better than the 3520 so I bought a 3520, flashed it to the most current firmware, Liggy & Dee’s 1.UE and ran som comparitive burns. Keep in mind my scans and conclusions are only for the specific media I have, and that I am sure that others will have varying results but the media I use is some of what is considered the best. All burns are at 8X other than the last Ridata R03 at 4X.

First I compared TYG01. The 3500 wins here; although both had very low PIF totals the 3500 had 1/10 the PIEs and a max of 10 rather than 35. Both burns were excellent.

Next, TYG02. Here again, the 3500 was the winner with scans almost the same as the G01s. The 3520 had lower PIFs.

Next, MCC 02RG20. Here the 3520 beat out the 3500 with ½ the PIEs and 1/6 the PIF.

Next the MCC 003. Here it was almost too close to call, but the 3500 had 1/3 the PIF. Both had extremely low PIEs.

Now to the Ritek G05. This is from an old batch that has proven to be very good on almost everything. Here, again, the 3500 beat the 3520 with PIEs of ½ and PIF of ¼ as much.

Last is the Ritek R03s. These have been a real problem as the older stuff I have burns like gold while the new stuff seems to be bad on everything. Here the 3520 just stunk with well over 1.5 million PIEs. The 3500 was OK but not the best. The surprise came when I burned the R03s at 4x on the 3520. This had not been successful before with other burners but here it worked. The PIEs were cut by 90%.

In all I would conclude that the 3500 was a better burner. When compared to my other drives, the 3520 does a very good job on all these media. While each of the other burners has something it does better than the 3520, it also has 3 or 4 media where it some burns embarrassingly badly.

I would have to say I can now recommend the 3520 to anyone based on the same criteria I used when promoting the 3500. Anything it gets, it does an admirable job burning. None of the burns are five star spectacular but none of them have any problems and they all are significantly better than the quality of burn I was familiar with from the days of 8X burners.

All scans are in my sig. Below; some may not be there tonight but I will get them in tomorrow.


#2

Thank you chas0039 for the effort, nice one :iagree:


#3

Yo chas0039-

For once we have someone who cuts right through the bull$hit and does something to enlighten us all-

Thank you - Thank you - Thank you

Mike

(btw - I too have said all along - and have recommended - that the 3500’s were the best)


#4

Thats alot of testing, thanks for taking the time to post them


#5

Thanks for all the cudos guys. It was faun to see the outcome and I’m gald to contribute something. I’d be tempted to do something similar for my other drives but then I would start a big flame war. Best to let people believe what they want.


#6

Yo chas0039-

Yur probably right - as there are some pretty opinionated and polarized folks runnin’ around in here (not us ofcourse)-

Mike


#7

Lol


#8

You mean my NEC tatoo was going a little too far? :rolleyes:

Wish I could edit the typos in the post above. Last time I enter posts from work.


#9

Look out chas0039 and bigmike7… here comes a big flame… :smiley:

NEC ND-3500 rules. :iagree:

:bigsmile: Thanks for testing chas0039.


#10

That was close; you almost singed my BenQ.

Please, try again; maybe you will hit it this time. :wink:


#11

Awesome job there chas. Two thumbs up, WAY UP. :slight_smile:

JD


#12

Yo-

And send that flame my way too - instead of a weeny roast - we can have a BenQ roast - yup!!

(given my BenQ luck - the damn thing is probably fireproof - its certainly not coasterproof!!)-

Mike


#13

Lol Lol


#14

Yo Quickee-

You are having a LOT of fun with this - aren’t you - eh?

Glad to have participated in making you LOL-

Mike


#15

Pretty opinionated and polarized folks? Are you talking to me? :wink:



#16

Yo efoo-

GREAT!!!

Mike


#17

I have updated the 3520 firmware from 1.UE to L&D’s 1.UF and I added another scan for TYG01. I have to give the edge here to the 3520. It dropped the PI count as well as lowering the PIF total below 60. I have to believe that my 1.UE was off as I have since been able to get the better results repeatedly from 1.UF. Strangly, the modified L&D firmware for my 3500 makes 8X burns on the G01s worse with PIF totals at 1400 compared to 200 with stock firmware. I was prepared for the same here but it went the other way. Go figure. I’ll try some G02 tomorrow. It will be hard but maybe the 3520 can close the gap.


#18

chas0039, nice comparison. Now between 3500 vs 3520, which one? Or should one wait for 3540? I’m eyeing on NEC (and LG 4163 or newer) for my next burner. Wanted a drive that is capable of doing PI/PIF testing.


#19

zevia: Wanna trade… my 3500 for your 716 =P


#20

hey Quikee, you know the shipping will be more than the drive itself LOL.

How’s the “Quikee PoweRec tools” for the plextor? :stuck_out_tongue: