Nec 2500a @ 2510a DL

NEC is going to release their new Dual Layer model 2510A in mai/june, which is identically constructed with the 2500A model !

So the way is open for an (unofficiall) firmware upgrade !

:bow: :bow: :bow: :iagree:

source: NEC announcement at CEBIT

best wishes

Prema;)

If it is true, it will be wonderfull.

Take a look here :

and here :

happy weekend :smiley:

Google Translations:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/laufwerke/optische_speicher/2004/maerz/die_dvd_brenner_cebit/&langpair=de|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.computerbase.de/news/hardware/laufwerke/optische_speicher/2004/maerz/cebit_nec_nd2500a_doublelayer/&langpair=de|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

this would be nice …

Well with without being overly optimisitc

since appropriate double Layer media can be still various parameters also still in the child shoes and change.

Has to prove beyond doubt it is possible
:bigsmile:

I’d be happy if they just consistently release firmware to improve media compatibility and burning quality.

People are forgetting the 1100a was identical to the 1300a and what a bed of nails that turned out to be.

Gentlemen:
Submitted herewith, on behalf of NEC SOLUTIONS (AMERICA), INC. is an application for
certification of the following Internal DVD R/RW Drive:
FCC ID: A3DND-2510A (New)
FCC ID: A3DND-2100A (Original)
MODEL: ND-2510A
TRADE NAMES: NEC
EUT TYPE: Internal DVD R/RW Drive
The device is electrically identical to FCC ID: A3DND-2100A granted October 14, 2003,
except for the model, firmware, and FCC ID. The original test report continues to be
representative of and applicable to the equipment bearing the changed ID.

Source FCC

Nice find jsl!

Very nice jsl. Well, that basically confirms everything we’ve heard so far.

Well Herrie, what are you waiting for? :bigsmile:

Originally posted by Dee-ehn
Well Herrie, what are you waiting for? :bigsmile:

The drive has to be released for sale first. :stuck_out_tongue:
I will gladly buy the drive and dump the firmware as soon as it is available for purchase.

I bet there will be a check in the firmware that normally prevents using a 2500 for writing dual layer disc. Like the check in 2100 and 1100 that prevents flashing the minus-firmwares.
But I’m sure Herrie and TDB will remove this check as soon as they get hold of this firmware.

According to Philips it will not be possible to upgrade existing 8x DVD recorders to DL layer recorders, contrary to what some rumours are saying. In theory the laser power of an 8x drive is strong enough to handle DL but the problem is, is that the OPU (Optical Pickup Unit) of the drive is often not good enough. This will lead to quality problems. However, some drives with good OPUs could, in theory, be upgraded although they’d have to be handpicked.

More interesting is that they will also introduce the ND-2510A drive supporting dual layer DVD+R recording. The ND-2510A drive will basically be the same drive as the ND-2500A but with a different firmware. Before any of you start thinking about upgrading the ND-2500A into a ND-2510A, just upgrading the firmware is not enough. Just as Philips said, the drive has to have a higher quality OPU for it to handle DL properly. The ND-2510A is expected to be released in May.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/140#nec

the drive has to have a higher quality OPU for it to handle DL properly. The ND-2510A is expected to be released in May.

This is a nonsense… if the 2500 and 2510 is the same hardware then the drives has the same OPU. If the OPU is different then the hardware is different… so… what’s the truth? I think it’s really based on same hardware with changed firmware (FCC)… and this news is only to discourage the upgrade.

i can understand why this is good b/c it doubles the data available without a bigger disc, but how would you label the disc once you’ve burned it? you can’t very well just write on it… that would ruin it :slight_smile:

maybe i’m not thinking hard enough about it though

Originally posted by ryaneszorro
[B]i can understand why this is good b/c it doubles the data available without a bigger disc, but how would you label the disc once you’ve burned it? you can’t very well just write on it… that would ruin it :slight_smile:

maybe i’m not thinking hard enough about it though [/B]

are u talking about double sided disc?

Dual Layer itself has a label on them

oh, dual-layer and double sided are two seperate things… thanks for clearing that up

Hrrrrm…

From memory, when the FCC says something is identical, it means it is for all intents and purposes electronically identical and a mirror image of the other product in question.

This would mean, any change in the PUH type, no matter how subtle, would dictate an electronic change in the components…

Just my two cents…