NEC 2500 with hidden special features

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#1

Hi,

I’m having some problems when trying to burn a DVD-RW with NEC 2500. I’ve tried the same DVD in a Sony external burner, and the files were successfully written to the DVD.

I’ve noticed that using Nero InfoTool, I get features that my writer doesn’t have. Here’s the result :

I want to remove all my recording software (CDRWin, Nero, EasyCDCreator, Veritas RecordNow, Alcohol 120%) and all the registry entries. I’ve saw a thread that explained how to do it, but can’t find it anymore.

Can someone help me ?

Sorry for the long message.


#2

#1 your thread title is misleading
It should have said something along the lines of “NEC2500 issue with DVD-RW”

Originally posted by pladeira
[B]Hi,

I’m having some problems when trying to burn a DVD-RW with NEC 2500. I’ve tried the same DVD in a Sony external burner, and the files were successfully written to the DVD. [/B]

#2 Try erasing the DVD-RW and reformatting it with your NEC2500

#3 your image upload/link did not work

Originally posted by pladeira
I want to remove all my recording software (CDRWin, Nero, EasyCDCreator, Veritas RecordNow, Alcohol 120%) and all the registry entries. I’ve saw a thread that explained how to do it, but can’t find it anymore.

#4 WOW that is quite a collection of Recording apps you have installed. It is definitely possible that they are conflicting. Who knows how many packet writing utilities you have installed
:confused: Your issue sounds like it may be a packet writing software problem. Just go into your Control Panel, Add/Remove programs and uninstall all of them. (DLA, Nero InCD, Roxio Direct CD)

#5 If you want to fully remove Nero from your registry you can use NeroCleanTools. It can be found on the Ahead website.


#3

Try to upload that picture to your website and link it from there.
You linked it to “http://c:/infotool.jpg” which is your c drive :wink:


#4

my NEC 2500a has problems with RW originally
burnt on other writers, quick erase doesn’t do it.
But a full erase and everything works again.


#5

I have titled hidden features, because initially my writer only supported Packet, TAO, DAO, SAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO 96, RAW DAO 96, like in OC’s review, but now I have all of the above plus RAW DAO, RAO SAW 16 and RAW DAO 16.

I don’t think I have DLA, InCD or Roxio Direct.

I have all the applications, because Nero doesn’t allow me to record with 0 gap between the first and second music. I installed Easy CD Creator, because it allows.

I erased the disk using the sony writer and Veritas RecordNow, so I tried at home, but without success.

Full erase doesn’t work either. It stops with an error 1 or 2 minutes after start.

I’ll uninstall all the applications and see if the problem persits.

More suggestions are welcome.

P.S. I don’t have a website to upload the image.


#6

Nero doesn’t allow me to record with 0 gap between the first and second music

Of course it does, always has.
You can attach an image to any post.


#7

Maybe it’s my writer and Nero, but I’m not able to write with 0 second gap between track 1 and 2. I can do it with Easy CD Creator.

Here is the log from one erase operation in Nero.


Pedro Ladeira
Carvalho Ladeira Inc.
1A23-0042-4030-1524-4324-9119

Windows 2000 5.0
IA32
WinAspi: File ‘Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10-09-1999 12:06:00
ahead WinASPI: File ‘C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll’: Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16-12-2003 19:18:06
Nero version: 6.3.0.3 (Nero Express)
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A> Version: 1.06 - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.3.0.3
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <JLMS XJ-HD166S >Version: DS18 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.3.0.3
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD400BB-00CAA1 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : ST36531A atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : JLMS XJ-HD166S atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A F: CDRom0
JLMS XJ-HD166S G: CDRom1

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 57671680 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 383MB (392736kB)
Free physical memory: 80MB (82888kB)
Memory in use : 78 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

13.3.2004
ISO compilation
20:20:37 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6029
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : TRUE
Multisession type: : Start multisession
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

20:20:37 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

20:20:37 #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A running

20:20:37 #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

20:20:37 #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3101
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

20:21:17 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 240
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37, 4488MB)
Last address to be written: 191999 ( 42:39.74, 374MB)

20:21:17 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

20:21:17 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2085
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A, Media type: DVD-RW
Disc Manufacturer: OPTODI - SCK001
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 214

20:21:17 #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 406
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================
Insert the disc to write to.
(Medium in drive: DVD-RW. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW; DVD-R/RW.)
This disc is not empty.
(Medium in drive: DVD-RW. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW; DVD-R/RW.)
VMS. Disc was erased successfully.
Accessing disc…
(Medium in drive: DVD-RW. Medium required by compilation: DVD+R/RW; DVD-R/RW.)

20:21:17 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 779
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 55024 (55024) = #55024/12:13.49
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 55024 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

20:21:17 #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 948
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: “”
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc not fixated
Tracks 2 to 2:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 112689152, ISRC “”
DAO layout:
===========
_Start|___Track|Idx|RecDep|CtrlAdr
136976 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
136976 | 2 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
136976 | 2 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
192000 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

20:21:17 #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files started

20:21:17 #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4073
Cache writing successful.

20:21:17 #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Caching of files completed

20:21:17 #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process started at 1x (1,380 KB/s)

20:21:17 #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2264
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #136976

20:21:17 #17 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 3:17,335 (197335ms) -> OK

20:21:17 #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1512
Recording mode: Restricted Overwrite Mode

20:21:18 #19 Phase 134 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Quick Grow last Border

20:21:34 #20 Phase 65 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process started

20:21:34 #21 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 19487
Set BUFE: JustLink -> ON

20:21:34 #22 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1643
Start write address at LBA 136976
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

20:21:34 #23 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 7941
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-RW (3), Part Version: 2
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: 10.08 Mbps (2 h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 5170F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Media Specific:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
05 17 20 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

20:21:36 #24 SCSI -1064 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1431
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BE60000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x21
Sense Qual: 0x02
CDB Data: 0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x02 0x17 0x10 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x21 0x02

20:21:36 #25 CDR -1064 File Writer.cpp, Line 301
Invalid block address

20:21:36 #26 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion

20:21:36 #27 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 223
conversion idle, stopping reader

20:21:36 #28 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1847
EndDAO: Last written address was 136975

20:21:36 #29 Phase 133 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Writing short lead-out

20:21:36 #30 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

20:21:36 #31 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1658
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

20:21:36 #32 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1800
Burn process failed at 1x (1,380 KB/s)

Existing drivers:
File ‘Drivers\CDR4_2K.SYS’: Ver=5.3.5.13, size=58160 bytes, created 08-03-2004 0:02:14
File ‘Drivers\CDRALW2K.SYS’: Ver=5.3.5.10, size=23436 bytes, created 08-03-2004 23:37:03
File ‘Drivers\ASPI32.SYS’: Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10-09-1999 12:06:00
File ‘Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS’: Ver=2.02.62a, size=20016 bytes, created 28-10-2003 10:02:00 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File ‘Drivers\atapi.sys’: Ver=5.00.2195.6699, size=86672 bytes, created 19-06-2003 12:05:04 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


Any help ?

P.S. How can I attach a picture ?


#8

Your issue sounds like it may be a packet writing software problem

Is it only the ‘packet writing’ software portions of these applications that can cause crashes and errors and conflicts? In other words, if you don’t install those components, Nero and Roxio should co-exist on a PC no problem?


#9

I’m not sure about Roxio since I do not use it.
I can tell you that I have Nero, RecordNow, and DVDXCopy all installed and I have no problems.


#10

I have Nero 6, Easy CD Creator 6, CDRWin, CloneCD and VCDEasy installed. All work with no problem. The only packet writing software installed is Roxio’s.

Dave


#11

I think I’ll give up. I can’t use this brand of DVD-RW in my NEC 2500.
I bought this writer, because I read a review which said that the writing quality was very good.
I can erase the DVD-RW in a Sony, but not on NEC. Maybe the quality is not so good.
I tried another brand and it works.
Don’t use Acro Circle DVD-RW in NEC 2500, because it can’t be burnt.


#12

Could you please post the full media code for this DVD-RW?
http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com


#13

By the way…
Your log file says you’re using Nero Express.
To burn with no gaps in between tracks you need to right click on the track, select properties, and change the ‘2’ value to a Zero in the Pause box.
:wink:



#14

I’ll post the full media code when I get home.
Relating to the 2 seconds gap, I did what you are telling me, but before Nero starts to burn I get a message box saying that Nero will change to a 2-3 second gap between the 1st and 2nd track, although I have chosen 0 second gap for all tracks,
Maybe the writer doesn’t support 2 seconds gap between 1st and 2nd gap.


#15

Originally posted by pladeira
I’ll post the full media code when I get home.
Relating to the 2 seconds gap, I did what you are telling me, but before Nero starts to burn I get a message box saying that Nero will change to a 2-3 second gap between the 1st and 2nd track, although I have chosen 0 second gap for all tracks,
Maybe the writer doesn’t support 2 seconds gap between 1st and 2nd gap.

A 2 sec gap is required before the first track, not the second. If you try to remove the 1st gap then you get that message. Other programs are doing the same thing, they just don’t tell you.


#16

I’ll try that, thanks.


#17

Is this that you want ?

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 d6 fd 9e d8 20 00 02 0e 07 07 88 76 09 00 .@… …v…
0010 : 03 4f 50 54 4f 44 49 00 04 53 43 4b 30 30 31 00 .OPTODI…SCK001.
0020 : 05 07 88 76 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …v…
0030 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0050 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

One more think, is there someting wrong with my writer ?

** INFO : An Empty Writable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A [FW 1.06]
** INFO : [DVD-RW:OPTODISCK001]
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 1352 KBPS (1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
Descriptor #1 = 5645 KBPS (4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 4234 KBPS (3.06x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] - [Invalid Entry]
Descriptor #3 = 3528 KBPS (2.55x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] - [Invalid Entry]
Descriptor #4 = 2822 KBPS (2.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #5 = 1411 KBPS (1.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #6 = 706 KBPS (0.51x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV] - [Invalid Entry]
** WARNING : Drive May Have Returned Incorrect Descriptors


#18

Yes that’s the mediacode I was looking for.
Thanks pladeira. Now I know what to NOT buy.

Originally posted by pladeira
I think I’ll give up. I can’t use this brand of DVD-RW in my NEC 2500.
I bought this writer, because I read a review which said that the writing quality was very good.
I can erase the DVD-RW in a Sony, but not on NEC. Maybe the quality is not so good.
I tried another brand and it works.
Don’t use Acro Circle DVD-RW in NEC 2500, because it can’t be burnt.

I would say that the quality of that DVD-RW is very poor. You’d be safer not to use that brand on any writer IMO.

Originally posted by pladeira
One more think, is there someting wrong with my writer ?

No, that is a normal return of info from DVDIdentifier.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with your drive. :wink:


#19

Don’t know why but Nero shows the correct feactures again.
My drives doesn’t support anymore RAW DAO, RAO SAW 16 and RAW DAO 16 (I think it never supported).

All I did was remove one hard disk, change my LiteOn 166 reader to slave in primary ide device and nec writer as master on secondary device.

The strange is that when I first installed the writer and the reader I only had the correct features, but suddenly I got more features.

I tried to erase the bad media again, but got a power calibration error in Nero.