My GSA-2166D contains a GSA-4164B!

:iagree: It’s true. Brand new from Best Buy.
I’m curious if others have discovered this about their GSA-2166D drives?
I was not aware of the 4164 doing DVD-RAM & 8x +R DL & lightscribe.

a 4164 on steroids!

For how much?


I was in a large electronics store a few days ago, they had the GSA 4166 and GSA 2166 in stock.

Both burners are able to do lightscribe. The specification on the box were both the same, except the GSA 2266 is an external device.

Both burners had the same specification:

DVD-R/-RW-/ROM : 10x / 8x/ 16x max.
DVD-RAM : 2x, 3x, 5x
DVD-Video (CSS) : 8x max. (Single / Dual Layer)
DVD+R/+RW : 10x / 8x max.
CD-R/-RW/-ROM : 48x max.
CD-DA (DAE) : 48x max

DVD-R : 2x, 4x CLV, 8x ZCLV, 16x PCAV
DVD-RW : 1x, 2x, 4x, 6x CLV
DVD-RAM : 2x, 3x ZCLV, 3x – 5x PCAV (Ver. 2.2)
DVD+R : 2.4x, 4x CLV, 8x, 12x, 16x ZCLV
DVD+R Double Layer : 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x ZCLV
DVD-R Dual Layer : 2x, 4x CLV
DVD+RW : 2.4x, 4x CLV, 8x ZCLV
CD-R : 4x, 8x CLV, 16x, 24x, 32x, 40x, 48x ZCLV
CD-RW : 4x, 8x, 10x CLV, 16x CLV, 24x, 32x ZCLV

Write methods:
DVD-R : Disc at Once und Incremental Recording
DVD-RW : Disc at Once, Incremental Recording und Restricted Overwrite
DVD-RAM : Random Write
DVD+R : Sequential Recording
DVD+R Double Layer : Sequential Recording
DVD-R Dual Layer : Sequential Recording DVD+RW : Random Write
CD-R/-RW : Disc at Once, Session at Once, Track at Once und Packet Write

Hm, according to the leaflet at LGE Nordic the specs for the GSA-2166D are:

Write Speed:
DVD+R: 2.4x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV), 12x b[/b], 16x b[/b]
DVD+R DL: 2,4x, 4x (CLV), 6x, 8x (ZCLV)
DVD+RW: 2.4x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV)
DVD-RAM: (Ver 2.2) 2x, 5x (CLV)
DVD-R: 2x, 4x (CLV), 8x (ZCLV), 12x (PCAV), 16x b[/b]
DVD-R DL: 4x (CLV)
DVD-RW: 1x, 2x, 4x (CLV), 6x b[/b]
CD-R: 16x (CLV), 24x (ZCLV), 32x, 40x, 48x b[/b]
CD-RW: 4x, 10x, 16x (CLV), 24x, 32x (ZCLV)

Read Speed:
DVD-R/RW/ROM/DL: 16x / 8x / 16x / 8x max
DVD+R/RW/R DL: 16x / 8x / 8x max
CD-ROM/R/RW/DA: 48x / 48x / 32x / 40x Max
DVD-RAM: 5x max

But the GSA-4164B specs are diff from GSA-4166B according to:
& even those specs are certainly different from that of the GSA-2166D

heheh, check out this CDRlabs thread and my 7th Sept. post.

So guess u have the same :slight_smile:
I take it having the 4164 is a good thing? Even over the 4166? How do you like yours so far? What happened to Ian’s complaint about not reaching 16x? I’ve yet to start getting dirty w/ mine.

MacClipper was the first person to test GSA-2166D among whom I knew. I’m sure forum somewhere has some of the records. :slight_smile:

In Germany in the GSA-2166 a GSA-4166 burner is inside the case.

When I bought my GSA 4166 I checked the box of the GSA 2166. The specified burn speeds where exactly the same as the GSA 4166, including Lightscribe.
When I started the CD ROM included in my DVd Burner Box I found 2 different directories this a manual. One was called “internal” and this directory contains the manual of my internal version I bought. The directory “external” contains the manual of the GSA 2166 (USB), the GSA 5166 (USB + FW) and the hint the 2164 is the same like 2166 but no Lightscribe.
By the way the 5166 is new for me either… :smiley:

You hit the nail right on the head. The only difference between the two is LightScribe support.

Anyone else notice that the specs seem to differ depending where you look? LG US says one thing, LG Netherlands another. Heck HLDS’s website says something entirely different.

since I found out the GSA 4166 is not specified at or I was checking the boxes in the store (what else could I do? :confused: ). The only one specified at the german LG page was the 2166 and in this descpription is written that this version of the burner is the USB version of the 4166.
I don’t know why the 4166 is not described. Not even hints for firmware or support ar found. Hopefully they will add this soon. I think the 2166/4166 is a cool burner, and I like the Lightscribe feature.
The only bad thing is that the Panasonic DVD RAM driver does not work with this device :sad: :sad: :sad:

Does anybody know if is possible to remove the drive and replace it with another one and keep the case?
Liteon, etc?

I bought a 2166D a week ago for 67 € in Germany.
There is a 2166D inside, not a 4166B wich should be identical.