Most reliable DVD to buy?

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#1

Hi peeps,

I am not looking for the most popular DVD (so that nice poll unfortunately doesnt help me very much)
I am not looking for the fastest write (I write 16x DVDs on 12x)
I am not looking for the best scans with CDSpeed (although I know it is one of the few measureable indicators for quality, still it doesn’t say how it will be in year)
I don’t care about price (as long as it is not 5x more expensive then other reasonable DVDs)

I just care about reliabilety. That is well readable and remains well readable for many years (with proper care).

I have a Benq DW1655w (capable of bitsetting) which likes both DVD-r and DVD+r

the last times I bought my DVDs @ svp.co.uk cause they have nice prices, lots of choice and deliver to NL (not to BE where I live, but my dad works in NL)
I bought Vertabim 16x (YUDEN000T03) or Taiyo Yuden 16x (YUDEN000T03) DVD+r and before that Vertabim 16x (MCC03) DVD-r in the past which did “ok” (knowing that DVD reliability will always such anyway)

But the problem is that lately there have been quite some negative feedback on the Taiyo Yuden DVD+r’s… It seems like they have lessened the quality to compete more on price :frowning:

So I was wondering:
Is there still a better type / dye of DVD I can buy atm?
or is the Taiyo Yuden still the best, although a little less then earlier?

hope someone can give me some nice advice :wink:


#2

I’d go for Verbatim MIT or MII 16x +R (MCC004) - all mine seem to have stood up well, and I’ve been vurning them as one of my archive medias for awhile now.

CMC MAG. AM3, commonly found as HP 16x DVD-R, would be a good choice too IMO. CMC media has been very stable for me (I still have CMC MAG E01s (8x +R) burned years ago).


#3

thx for the tip!

Just had a look on svp.co.uk and they only have "Dshirt Overprint 16x DVD+R " subsidised DVD+r’s
Doesn’t Vertabim have MCC04’s anymore? Cause I’m not really sure what to think of the brand Dshirt, even if they use a good dye :stuck_out_tongue:

The CMC MAG AM3 are easier to find, but all get mixed reviews on svp.co.uk and except ridisc and ricoh no “known reliable” brand seems to have them


#4

Yep, Verbatim still have MCC004 :iagree: - thing is, SVP seem to be selling the YUDEN000 T03 16x Verbatim discs instead.

I get all my Verbatim MCC004 when there’s a sale on in PC World or Staples.


#5

just had a quick look on the cdfreaks webshop and lol, it seems like DVDs in Belgium are 5x the price of in NL (or is it a typo?)
so you must be crazy not to pretend your dutch

I did find mcc004 vertabims there

Are these the ones you are meaning?


#6

[QUOTE=Mastakilla;2098162]just had a quick look on the cdfreaks webshop and lol, it seems like DVDs in Belgium are 5x the price of in NL (or is it a typo?)
so you must be crazy not to pretend your dutch

I did find mcc004 vertabims there

Are these the ones you are meaning?[/QUOTE]

Hehe :)…yep, those are the ones I was meaning :iagree:


#7

Nice to see long time member here Mastakilla :slight_smile:


#8

hehe jup

never got to your number of posts though :wink:


#9

[QUOTE=Mastakilla;2098173]hehe jup

never got to your number of posts though ;)[/QUOTE]I probably had to ask more questions than you did :wink: but i like to see long time members here. Not many come around or have the amount of posts you do.


#10

[QUOTE=Bob;2098183]I probably had to ask more questions than you did :wink: but i like to see long time members here. Not many come around or have the amount of posts you do.[/QUOTE]
every time my dvdwriter is broke or if i’m out of media i’ll probably be back :wink:

cdfreaks tought me back in 1999 that for some (most) specific hardware, specialised fora are better then general hardware sites (cd/dvdwriter reviews on tomshardware were always “funny” to read and the crap they try to shove up your ass about all those crappy lcds is “very funny” too :p)


#11

[QUOTE=Mastakilla;2098195]…specialised [B]fora[/B] are better then general hardware sites[/QUOTE]Took me a while to interpret that. :slight_smile:


#12

[quote=Mastakilla;2098145]I don’t care about price (as long as it is not 5x more expensive then other reasonable DVDs)

I just care about reliabilety. That is well readable and remains well readable for many years (with proper care).[/quote] If you don’t care about price, I suggest you consider these DVDs available from SVP (and other places):

Verbatim 8x DVD-R MediDisc

Verbatim 8x DVD-R Archival Grade


#13

Thanks for the tip DrageMester!

Just had a quick look at those and they indeed seem very reliable, but they also costs 3-5 times more then my “usual” MCC00*" or Taiyo Yuden DVDs
I think that about twice the price of “normal high quality DVDs”, is the most I want to pay extra for DVDs with a very noticable reliability improvement. 3-5 times is a bit too much i’m afraid, since i want to buy a couple 100 of them :wink:

As a conclusion so far, can I say the following?
–> The golden days of Taiyo Yuden’s (and MCC003?) are over
–> Currently the MCC004 Vertabims is the best thing I can get for my Benq DW1655w

right?


#14

I swear by MCC004…I rarely swear at them :smiley:


#15

As “a little more expensive” is not an issue for you, but the (lovable!) special Verbs (Archival/medical grade) are too expensive for you, I’d suggest you buy then printable 16X +R Verbs (MCC 004).

For some reason, it seems that the printable ones are these days produced mainly in the best CMC location, that can be identified by the “PAPA…” code at the clear hub. I couldn’t find, recently, any printable 16X +R that would be from another outsourcing. As you can guess, I’m pretty pleased, since I use only printables. :stuck_out_tongue:

These “PAPA” printable MCC 004 discs are so darn good that it’s not even funny anymore to test them. LOL :bigsmile:

So by buying the printable 16X +R Verbs, which are only very slighlty more expensive than the regular ones, you could very well improve your chances to get the best MCC 004 grade. :cool: - no guarantee, though. Things change SO fast these days. :rolleyes:


#16

thanks for the tip Francksoy!

when did you buy your last batch of these PAPA MCC004s? (I found 2 less positive reviews at svp.co.uk at the end of 2007, wondering if it should be better now…)

also i’m not really sure what you mean with the “clear hub”. Can you perhaps post a pic?

and one more thing i am wondering: can i easely write with my DVD marker on a printable DVD? (never bought those yet)


#17

[quote=Mastakilla;2099483]and one more thing i am wondering: can i easely write with my DVD marker on a printable DVD? (never bought those yet)[/quote] Yes you can.


#18

Watch out for fake MCC004 discs (discs not made by Mitsubishi Chemicals but are using their code). I suspect those Dshirt discs are not genuine MCC004. In fact last time I looked (a few months ago) I was suspicious of all of the MCC004 discs SVP were selling. [U]IF[/U] SVP have started stocking discs with faked media codes than it is a sad day for all of us.

To be on the safe side I will be sticking to Verbatim for my MCC004s.


#19

[QUOTE=Mastakilla;2099483]thanks for the tip Francksoy![/quote]You’re welcome :slight_smile:

when did you buy your last batch of these PAPA MCC004s?
Just three days ago :bigsmile:
(I found 2 less positive reviews at svp.co.uk at the end of 2007
SVP only carries the the photo printable +R Verbs… not the same, can’t comment on the current manufacturing of these.
Look there, it’s the ones I ordered: http://www.xmediatrade.com/product.php?prodID=901485
also i’m not really sure what you mean with the “clear hub”.
Inner hub? Does it make more sense to you?The clear plastic part at the center of the disc. :slight_smile:
and one more thing i am wondering: can i easely write with my DVD marker on a printable DVD? (never bought those yet)
Yes. :iagree:

Yep. As you said, better stick with Verbatim for MCC codes. :iagree:


#20

[QUOTE=Francksoy;2099530]SVP only carries the the photo printable +R Verbs… not the same, can’t comment on the current manufacturing of these.[/quote]If you want to order from SVP, then I suggest these discs as the better alternative: http://svp.co.uk/product/taiyo_yuden_8x_full_face_inkjet_printable_dvd_plus_r_3148
A little pricey, but extremely reliable.
T02 Yudens are actually the favorite discs of most CDFreaks. :wink: