Moser baer CDs

hi everyone

ive been having trouble burning moser baer blank CD-Rs on my BENQ CD writer drive. For some reason I have not had any trouble burning Imation or Memorex CDs. However, someone gave me a whole large bunch of moser baer CDs (sealed and packed). Whenever I try to burn something I have problems. I burn files using Nero Express. I’ve been shooting a lot of video clips with my new camera. When I try to burn these files on to the CD, Nero burns the thing, supposedly successfully. But then when I put the burned CD back in the drive it is unable to read it. Once I tried converting a large video I shot into VCD format. I did this successfully and made an ISO/CUE but then when I tried burning that it didnt even start, it said write error. Here’s an example of one of the failure logs I get from Nero:

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 1/30/2003 2:07:36 AM 
Nero Version: 5.5.10.26 (Nero Express)
Recorder:             <ATAPI CDRW 52X32>        Version: Y.OS - HA 3 TA 0 - 5.5.10.26
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 3
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 
CD-ROM:               <ATAPI    CDRW 52X32>     Version: Y.OS - HA 3 TA 0 - 5.5.10.26
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 3
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI 

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : ST380011A                        atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On 
CdRomPeripheral      : ATAPI CDRW 52X32                 atapi Port 3 ID 0  DMA: Off
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs: 
CmdQueuing     : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed     : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 510MB (522988kB)
Free physical memory: 119MB (122676kB)
Memory in use       : 76 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1) 
Wizard: On

31.10.2006
CueSheet
10:05:27 PM	#1 Phase 87 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Seamless Link activated
	
10:05:27 PM	#2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
	Reader running
	
10:05:27 PM	#3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 125
	Writer ATAPI    CDRW 52X32       running
	
10:05:27 PM	#4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3735
	Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media
	
10:05:27 PM	#5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
	Setup items (original item values)
	 0: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2 (Cue Sheet Track)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 1207 (1207) = #1207/0:16.7
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos 
	 1: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2 (Cue Sheet Track)
	    2 indices, index0 (0) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 251769 (251769) = #251769/55:56.69
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos 
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
10:05:28 PM	#6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 221
	Last possible write address on media:   359848 (79:59.73)
	Last address to be written:             252975 (56:15.00)
	
10:05:28 PM	#7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 226
	Write in overburning mode: FALSE
	
10:05:28 PM	#8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1678
	Recorder: ATAPI CDRW 52X32;
	   CDR code: 00 97 17 06; OSJ entry from: Moser Baer India Limited
	   ATIP Data:
	     Special    Info [hex] 1: D0 00 A0, 2: 61 11 06 (LI 97:17.06), 3: 4F 3B 4A (LO 79:59.74)
	     Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 00 (invalid), 2: 00 00 00 (invalid), 3: 00 00 00 (invalid)
	
10:05:28 PM	#9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 824
	Prepare recorder ATAPI    CDRW 52X32       for write in cue-sheet-DAO
	DAO infos:
	==========
	MCN: 
	TOCTYPE: 0x20   Session Closed, CD fixated
	Tracks 1 to 2:
	   TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 352800 3191664
	   TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 3191664 3191664 595352352
	
10:05:28 PM	#10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 672
	Setup items (after recorder preparation)
	 0: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2 (Cue Sheet Track)
	    2 indices, index0 (150) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 1207 (1207) = #1207/0:16.7
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1207 blocks [ATAPI    CDRW 52X32      ]
	 1: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2 (Cue Sheet Track)
	    2 indices, index0 (0) provided
	    original CD pos #0 + 251769 (251769) = #251769/55:56.69
	    relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos 
	    -> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 251769 blocks [ATAPI    CDRW 52X32      ]
	--------------------------------------------------------------
	
10:05:28 PM	#11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Caching of files started
	
10:05:28 PM	#12 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Caching of files completed
	
10:05:28 PM	#13 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process started at 52x (7,800 KB/s)
	
10:05:28 PM	#14 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
	Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
	
10:05:28 PM	#15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1978
	Verifying CD position of item 1 (relocatable, no CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #1207
	
10:05:28 PM	#16 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 13384
	StartDAO : CD-Text - Off
	
10:05:28 PM	#17 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 17869
	Set BUFE: Seamless Link -> ON , Auto Pilot : ON
	
10:05:28 PM	#18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 13642
	CueData, Len=40
	41 00 00 34 00 00 00 00 
	41 01 00 21 00 00 00 00 
	41 01 01 21 00 00 02 00 
	41 02 01 21 00 00 12 07 
	41 aa 01 34 00 38 0f 01 
	
10:05:45 PM	#19 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1416
	SCSI Exec, HA 3, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x02540000
	Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
	HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
	TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
	Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
	Sense Code: 0x0C
	Sense Qual: 0x00
	CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0xFF 0xFF 0xFF 0x6A 0x00 0x00 0x1B 0x00 0x00 0x00 
	Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A 
	            0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00 
	
10:05:45 PM	#20 MMC -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 333
	Write error
	
10:05:45 PM	#21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 219
	all writers idle, stopping conversion
	
10:05:46 PM	#22 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 213
	conversion idle, stopping reader
	
10:05:46 PM	#23 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1655
	Burn process failed at 52x (7,800 KB/s)
	
10:05:46 PM	#24 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
	SCSI not using temporary buffers
	20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated
	

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 8/4/2004 11:29:42 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option) 

Can someone please tell me if there’s anything I can do? I’m a man of limited means and I’d rather not throw away a year’s worth of blank CDs if I can help it.

Hi ashok5, welcome to CDF :slight_smile:

First of all, try following the steps in this thread to get DMA enabled on your CDRW drive. :slight_smile:

That alone might help. But also, I see a [KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR] in your log, which looks like the discs may be a problem.

:slight_smile:

Welcome to CDF,
First of all it shows that DMA is off for your CDRW drive. See here on how to enable it. Next try slowing down your burn speed to 24X or 32X.

thanks for the suggestions and the welcomes, guys. I will try out your suggestions now and get back to you.

Yeah, slowing the speed slightly might be good. For data, I like 32x and for audio, 16x…you don’t really lose much time in doing so :slight_smile:

Good luck! :slight_smile:

And burning at 52x can kill all but the best of CD-R media - I have killed some Moser Baer CD-R media myself (Imation and Verbatim Extra Protection) on my dad’s 52x LiteOn CD-RW burner.

[B]ashok5[/B], you have been given some solid advice so far. Try following the advice and let us know how it goes. :slight_smile:

And welcome to CDFreaks! :flower:

Was this LiteOn’s fault or 52x speed’s fault? Or maybe both? :smiley:

I’d say the speed or the discs. Or even that DMA wasn’t enabled.

Stop bashing Liteys, you :bigsmile:

The combination Moser Baer + LiteOn SOHR-5238S + 52x burning is too much to ask, apparently.

But my personal opinion is that 52x burning should be avoided, because the added risk of producing a coaster just isn’t worth the few seconds saved. And 48x is also a bit on the edge for a lot of media/drive combinations. Even 40x is pushing it sometimes - burning Taiyo Yuden CD-R media at 40x in NEC/Optiarc DVD burners is not a good idea in my experience, unless you enjoy E22 errors.

And that takes us down to the 32x burning speed which is safe for most media/drive combinations. :slight_smile: