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#1

LTR-48246S SS0B
Manufacturer : Mitsui
Code : 97m27s55f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 74:05.10
651 MB
Additional Capacity : n/a
Overburn Capacity : not tested

Sold as Mitsui Gold 16x


#2

ATIP: 97m 27s 55f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Assumed Dye type: Phthalocyanine (Type 5)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 650.85MB (74m 05s 10f / LBA: 333235)

Mitsui-8x-74min:

I am providing these results from CDRs burned AT LEAST 2 years or so ago. They have been kept in CD Cases or CD Wallets for the duration, and NO physical damage is on them. All CDs were burned with either a Ricoh 6200A (latest firmware), Ricoh 7040A (latest firmware), or Ricoh 7200A (latest firmware). Some tests are not quite the full capacity (74 or 80 min), but are relatively close. These results may be helpful to those who have stored media on these specific mediums and are woried about the CDRs data corruption.

Sorry I know not much information recorded, but only Mistui CDR I have.

SuperG


#3

Drive: ASUS CRW-5224A FW 1.35
ATIP: 97m 27s 56f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)


#4

Plextor PX-W4012A 1.03 700MB Audio

SB 3.1.1

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR (C-)
Material = Phthalocyanine
Lead In = 97:27:56
Lead Out = 79:59:74
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f/LBA:359849)
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsui
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = Wrt(24X),Rd(52X)

CD Doc 121

Manufacturer: Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Lead-In start (ATIP): 97:27:56 (-11569)
Media Type: CD / CD-R
Lead-Out Maximum: 79:59:74 (359849)
Dye Type: Phthalocyanine, etc
Capacity: 702.83 MB

CDR Identifier 1.63

ATIP: 97m 27s 56f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Blanks
SW- PlexTools


#5

Plextor PX-708A, F/W 1.01, 650Mb data.
ATIP: 97m 27s 56f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 650.85MB (74m 05s 11f / LBA: 333236)

Sold as mitsui gold. Excellent discs, stored for about 3 years and still works excellent. Written without problems at 16X.


#6

Lite-On LTR-52246S, F/W 6S0F, 700Mb data.
ATIP: 97m 27s 56f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

Sold as sony CDQ-80N2. Burns without problems at 24X.


#7

Plextor PX-W4012A 1.04 700MB Data

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR (C-)
Material = Phthalocyanine
Lead In = 97:27:56
Lead Out = 79:59:74
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f/LBA:359849)
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsui
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = Wrt(24X),Rd(52X)

Blanks
SW - Nero 5.5


#8

Plextor PX-W4012A 1.03 700MB Audio

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR (C-)
Material = Phthalocyanine
Lead In = 97:27:56
Lead Out = 79:59:74
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f/LBA:359849)
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = Wrt(24X),Rd(52X)

Mitsui Toatsu blanks 24x
SW- Plextools


#9

Plextor PX-W4012A 1.03 700MB Audio

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR (C-)
Material = Phthalocyanine
Lead In = 97:27:56
Lead Out = 79:59:74
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f/LBA:359849)
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = Wrt(24X),Rd(52X)

Mitsui Toatsu blanks 24x
SW- Plextools


#10

Plextor PX-W4012A 1.05 700MB Audio

Drive Type = CD-RW
Disc Type = CDR (C-)
Material = Phthalocyanine
Lead In = 97:27:56
Lead Out = 79:59:74
Nominal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f/LBA:359849)
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Smart-Burn Speed Limit = Wrt(24X),Rd(52X)

Mitsui Toatsu blanks 24x
SW - PlexTools


#11

LTR-52327S QS0B
MAM-E Mitsui Gold Ultra.
Certified 24X.

Manufacturer : Mitsui
Code : 97m27s56f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : General
Recording Layer : Dye Type 6: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 79:59.74
703 MB
Additional Capacity : n/a
Overburn Capacity : not tested

Burned 24X by LTR52327S with one data file, DAO.
MAM-E Mitsui Gold Ultra.
Certified 24X.



#12

Plextor CD-R Premium f/w 1.05 audio 73:03 (642 MB)

Manufacturer : Mitsui
Code : 97m27s55f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : Audio
Recording Layer : Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 74:05.10 651 MB

MFSL 24kt Gold Ultradisc CD-R. Available directly from Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab’s site.

C1 avg…0.7
C1 max…20.0
C1 total…3087.0

Recorded with PlexTools Pro v2.12 (CD/DVD Copy - Image).
Scanned at 8x CLV, as there are a lot of C2/CU errors reported at the very end of the CD when scanned at max speed (10-24x CAV), though upon loading the tray, the Premium limits the max reading speed to 10-24x (the PX-712A’s limit is the probably more realistic 8x CLV).

Zero overburning capability - burning a 74:15 image resulted in C2 count in hundreds at the end of the CD.



#13

Plextor CD-R Premium f/w 1.05 audio 73:03 (642 MB)

Manufacturer : Mitsui
Code : 97m27s55f
Disc Type : CD-R
Usage : Audio
Recording Layer : Dye Type 5: Short Strategy (Phthalocyanine)
Recording Speed : n/a
Capacity : 74:05.10 651 MB

MFSL 24kt Gold Ultradisc CD-R. Available directly from Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab’s site.

C1 avg…0.9
C1 max…26.0
C1 total…4155.0

Recorded with PlexTools Pro v2.12 (CD/DVD Copy - Image).
Scanned at 8x CLV, as there are a lot of C2/CU errors reported at the very end of the CD when scanned at max speed (10-24x CAV).

I could not test MFSL’s max recommended 12x - neither of my burners supports it, so I tried 16x. Got a write function error 052C00 - ILLEGAL REQUEST: COMMAND SEQUENCE ERROR from PlexTools Pro at the end of the burn.

Conclusion: while C1 levels look excellent, I can hardly recommend this media:
-low recording speed limit
-cannot be overburned even slightly
-exorbitant price
-C1 counts still about three times higher than TY



#14

Same as two posts before.
Written at 16X TAO.

Just for knowledge: Scanning with QS0B (which i later switched to) Gave an error rates of: C1 Av. 1.93, Max. 8963.



#15

LITE-ON LTR-24102B (fw?), 457 MB burned to disc
ATIP: 97m27s56f

here is a scan of a MITSUI CD-R i just did recently… the disk itself was burned on Febuary 28th 2002 … it’s a audio cd… as you can see these disks are obviously good quality especially when u factor in the disk was burned about 4 years and 4 months ago.

the drive it was burned in was a LITE-ON LTR-24102B drive (with im sure the newest firmware at that time) here is a picture…

i bought these MITSUI disks off ebay for 50 dollars for 100disks.

ok here is some more info about the disk as the admin asked for in a PM to me…

the disk above was burned @ 24x … as for the rated speed of the disks i aint tottally sure, but i “think” there rated @ 16x.
[Moderator’s comment by DrageMester] The disk is most probably 24x rated

the disks are 700MB disks.

p.s. to bad my damn lite-on dvd burner wont show ATIP info… i gotta fire up the old pc with the drive that i burned the disk with to get the info which is the LITE-ON 24102B drive.

according to the Kprobe program here is what i got… (info i got from the Lite-On 24102B cd-rw drive)

Manufacturer = Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Media ID = 97:27:56
Capacity = 702.80MB
Maximum Write Speed = 23x ( is this official burn speed of the media? )
Material = Phthalocyanine



#16

ok here is some more info about the disk as the admin asked for in a PM to me…

the disk above was burned @ 24x … as for the rated speed of the disks i aint tottally sure, but i “think” there rated @ 16x.

the disks are 700MB disks.

p.s. to bad my damn lite-on dvd burner wont show ATIP info… i gotta fire up the old pc with the drive that i burned the disk with to get the info which is the LITE-ON 24102B drive.

according to the Kprobe program here is what i got… (info i got from the Lite-On 24102B cd-rw drive)

Manufacturer = Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.
Media ID = 97:27:56
Capacity = 702.80MB
Maximum Write Speed = 23x ( is this official burn speed of the media? )
Material = Phthalocyanine


#17

Lite-On DVD burners are unsuitable for CD scanning, as the C1 errors reported are too low. Maybe scanning with KProbe on the Litey CD-RW can do…


#18

kg_evilboy is right - see this thread.

But this forum is only for posting results - not for discussions or commenting on results posted by others, and any such posts will be removed!

If you have private comments send a private message, if you have public comments then please open up a new thread or use an existing thread about the same subject.

This post and the post above will be removed in a few hours! :cop:


#19

LITE-ON LTR-24102B 5S5A, 457 MB burned to disc
ATIP: 97m27s56f

here is same disk but scan is done with Lite-ON LTR-24102B CD-RW Drive…


Date : 7/5/2006 12:25:37 AM
Model : 1-0-1-0 F:LITE-ON LTR-24102B 5S5A
Disc : CDR (C-) , 972756:795974 [Mitsui Chemicals, Inc.]
Speed : Max
Scanned range : 0:2:0 (0) - 52:06:52 (39370h)
C1 Max : 71
C1 Average : 14.75
C1 Total : 41294
C2 Max : 0
C2 Average : 0.00
C2 Total : 0

obviously dont look nearly as good now :frowning: … the disk is 4years and 4months-ish old since it was burned… is this the expected results of a disk of this age?

here is a scan of that same disk @ 4x read speed (using lite-on 24102b drive for scan) …



#20

firmware is 5S5A (for the Lite-On 24102b CD-RW drive) as listed in the pic above… u can delete this post if u want and add it to the above posts i did or something. :wink: