Mitsubishi Chemicals - Gold Phthalo Cyanine Disk = Manufactured by CMC Magnetics?

Purchased a costly Mitsubishi Chemicals - Gold Phthalo Cyanine Disk which is Manufactured by CMC Magnetics ??? :a :a :a

How is this disk ???

Is it a fake one or Mitsubishi Chemicals allows CMC to manufacture some of their disks.

So Mitsui and Mitsubishi CD-R media also OEM-manufactured by CMC if that’s true. Thanks for the information. (Never heard of it before.)

@darshanjog

It would be helpful if you could post your ATIPs :

ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.65.5ß
Recorder: Plextor - CD-R PX-W4012A
ATIP start of lead in: -02:32:19 (sector: -11419)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 27 56 - Mitsui Chemicals, Inc (Type: 6)
Reference speed: -
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype: Medium Type C, low Beta category (C-)
Target writing power: 4

ATIP: 97m 27s 56f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals, Inc.
Reflective layer: Dye (Short strategy; e.g. Phthalocyanine)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f / LBA: 359849)

As I’ve said in another post, the Mitsui’s made in Taiwan are NOT CMC Magnetics made, but are made by Prodisc.

The Mitsubishis are Made in Taiwan by CMC using a speicial Mitsubishi Chemical Corp. production line and the dye is completely different from standard CMC.

Mitsubishi and Mitsui from Taiwan are outstanding quality.

TerminalVeloCD
BTW. I don’t work for any CD-R company, I’m just a heavy user of CD’s.

BTW, if it’s Verbatim DataLife you’re talking about, STAY AWAY from it! It’s Made by CMC or MMM&M or Moser Baer India. :Z

The only good Verbatims are the DataLifePlus’, made at the following factories:

Taiwan: At CMC Magnetics Corp., using Mitsubishi Azo Dyes.
Ireland/Mexico/Singapore: At Mitsubishi Chemicals, using Azo.

All these should be high quality except for the Mexico-made ones and (maybe) the Ireland made ones.

Hope that helps!

TerminalVeloCD

Great ! But how about the ATIPs ? Is it possible to display them here ?

Mitsubishi Super Azo Crystal 24x
ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.65
Recorder: LITE-ON - LTR-52246S
ATIP start of lead in: -02:25:52 (Sektor: -10927)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (Sektor: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 34 23 - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (Typ: 3)
Reference speed: -
Minimum recording speed: -
Maximum recording speed: -
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4
Power multiplication factor:-
Target y value: -
Erase/writer power ratio: -

Mitsubishi Super Azo 24x
ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.65
Recorder: LITE-ON - LTR-52246S
ATIP start of lead in: -02:25:53 (Sektor: -10928)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (Sektor: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 34 22 - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (Typ: 2)
Reference speed: -
Minimum recording speed: -
Maximum recording speed: -
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4
Power multiplication factor:-
Target y value: -
Erase/writer power ratio: -

Mitsubishi 4x-10x CD-RW
ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.65
Recorder: LITE-ON - LTR-52246S
ATIP start of lead in: -02:25:52 (Sektor: -10927)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (Sektor: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 34 23 - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (Typ: 3)
Reference speed: 6
Minimum recording speed: 4
Maximum recording speed: 8
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Rewriteable
Disc subtype: High-Speed CD-RW
Target writing power: 2
Power multiplication factor:2
Target y value: 6
Erase/writer power ratio: 5

Mitsubishi Metal Azo 16x
ATIP info from disk - Read by Feurio 1.65
Recorder: LITE-ON - LTR-52246S
ATIP start of lead in: -02:25:54 (Sektor: -10929)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (Sektor: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 34 21 - Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation (Typ: 1)
Reference speed: -
Minimum recording speed: -
Maximum recording speed: -
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, high Beta category (A+)
Target writing power: 4
Power multiplication factor:-
Target y value: -
Erase/writer power ratio: -

These Verbatim DataLifePlus - super AZO will burn at 52x with zero errors, in the 52246S Liteon with Smarburn turned off.

This Disc is designed for CD-RW/COMBO Drive Only.
Disc Type, Material = CD-R, Cyanine
ATIP Lead-in = 97m 34s 23f
Norminal Capacity = 702.83MB (79m 59s 74f)
Disc Manufacturer maybe = Mitsubishi,Colombo
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 40X

There is no information as to where they are made. Perhaps the reference to Colombo refers to Sri Lanka?

@alexnoe

Thanks for the info ! :slight_smile:

But what I actually meant was the stuff mentioned by darshanjog:

Mitsubishi Chemicals - Gold Phthalo Cyanine Disk which is manufactured by CMC Magnetics

:wink:

@Jovo: Are you sure your drive didn’t spin down? Watch the LED during burning…and burn full 700 MB to check this.

Originally posted by alexnoe
@Jovo: Are you sure your drive didn’t spin down? Watch the LED during burning…and burn full 700 MB to check this.

@Alexnoe, I assume you are referring to my post on the Verbatim? These are the graphs for the media. They were done with a 700Mb file and there was no spin down during the burn process as you can see. I admit I was as suprised at the result as I was with the 24x TY also burning error free at 52x.

The spindown does not occur when simulating, so a CDSpeed screenshot is not enough. You must do a real burn and watch the LED to find out if it spins down or not when writing.

Originally posted by alexnoe
The spindown does not occur when simulating, so a CDSpeed screenshot is not enough. You must do a real burn and watch the LED to find out if it spins down or not when writing.

What you see is a real burn. It is not a simulation. I use the function within Nero CDSpeed called Create Data CD which does a real, not simulated burn. In fact it writes 5000 files. There is no slowing down, which as you say causes the led to change colour and in Nero shows a drop in the actual burning speed.

I have been using this utility for a while and it responds to turning off the smartburn facility off in Nero, allowing a 40x certified disc to be burned at 52x - not something I would normally advocate.

I posted earlier results for a host of media at: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?threadid=57535

I hope this clarifies the situation. I would like to see the Create Data CD function being introduced as the standard by which to test blank media in the future. That way, all file content criteria would be constant.

Sorry for not posting the ATIP.

Actually, I have sent my burner for a replacement.

I will go to my friends place, write down the ATIP (Manu. Code.) & post it here soon.

Thanx for the quick replies by all of you guys.

@BoSkin

Here is the ATIP info:

CMC Magnetics - 97m 26s 66f

Hey Darshan
Where did you get those Mitsubishis? Cassette World?
How much?

i’ve read that the Mitsubishi aren’t recommended with the lite-ons?

@webcrawler: This issue seems to be fixed in the latest firmwares.

Originally posted by darshanjog

@BoSkin

Here is the ATIP info:

CMC Magnetics - 97m 26s 66f

Yes, that’s known :

CMC ( blank ) 48x 700MB

Recorder: LITE-ON - LTR-48125W
ATIP start of lead in: -02:33:09 (sector: -11484)
ATIP start of lead out: 79:59:74 (sector: 359999)
Manufacturer code: 97 26 66 - CMC Magnetics Corporation (Type: 6)
Unrestriced use: No
Disc type: Not Rewriteable
Disc subtype: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-)
Target writing power: 5

But what’s printed there ? Why are they called Mitsubishi Chemicals ?

Originally posted by alexnoe
@webcrawler: This issue seems to be fixed in the latest firmwares.

great!

thanks

Originally posted by BoSkin
But what’s printed there ? Why do they call Mitsubishi Chemicals ?

perhaps it’s a fake, we get a lot of fakes here in india! most of the HP 24x are fakes… shopkeepers themselves warn ppl about it.
The latest one i’ve seen is “Smart Boy” which is again a rip off (Smart Buy) The logo and print is all the same except for the ‘boy’ part.