Mitsubishi Chemicals DVD+R

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#892

Thanks.
It’s very easy to identify the real manufacturer and the date of manufacture of most media: Deciphering the manufacturing date of your media (with pictures + all major mfg’s!)


#893

Huh, did I something wrong or did I have to choose the manufacturer manually to see the manufacturer?

Looks like the printable Verbatim-media from Lyreco is always the same since some years. -R MBI, +R CMC


#894

I believe you’re talking about my CD2Date tool, so I will answer this question.

The program does assume prior knowledge of the manufacturer and in all cases except CMC and Daxon an estimate of the manufacturing decade (most serials do not include that info). However it is extremely easy to identify the manufacturer of your media based on the serial. The article I wrote in January 2017 covered all of this in detail but here’s a quick rundown for MCC 004:

MOSER BAER INDIA - serial numbers start with 3 or 4 digits which is the datecode, followed by a space and 3 digits and then something like +R E C
EXAMPLE: 5343 520 +R E F 23872

CMC MAGNETICS - serial number starts with PAP6 or PAPA
EXAMPLE: PAP6 80UI 25221969 2

PRODISC - similar to MBI format in the sense that it begins with a 4-digit datecode but unlike MBI it doesn’t usually have spaces but does have a + in the middle of the two parts.
EXAMPLE: 7072E4116+03611E10

FALCON / FTI - four part hub code that looks something like this:
EXAMPLE: B1FH A01A J906040623 A31

MITSUBISHI SINGAPORE - you don’t need to worry about these but they are identifiable through having two letters followed by a number and having no spaces or non-alphanumeric characters.
EXAMPLE: VB34BC866801425

CMC, MBI and Prodisc can be decoded with cd2date into an MMDDYYYY format, Singapore-made MCC will only show the year of manufacturing. So for example the serial you just posted generates the following output:

cd2date

Of course you could technically just type the hub code into the editbox and try various different MFG’s, if it refuses to decode the serial then most likely you selected the wrong manufacturer. There is no automatic detection beyond that since it would 1) be out of scope for the intended use and 2) would require full, as opposed to partial serials since a dozen other manufacturers use YDDD style serials for example.

I hope I cleared it up for you now. Please state the manufacturer and manufacturing date in your posts going forward, since that is of critical importance when judging these scans.


#895

Thank you for these info :slight_smile:

Your tool is very nice, I only had to learn how to use it.

Most MCC-media is from CMC and MBI, so it is not a big problem to select these two manufacturers


#896

Writer: Asus DRW-2014L1
Firmware: 1.01
Media: Verbatim DVD+R 16x Printable by CMC in 4-2017
MID: (MCC 004)
Burn Speed: 12x
Software: CDspeed 4.7.7.16
Burned 2019
Scanned 2019


Asus DRW-2014L1T - Post your scans here
#897

Writer: Piodata DVR-S21DBK
Firmware: 1.DF
Media: Verbatim DVD+R 16x Printable by CMC in 4-2017
MID: (MCC 004)
Burn Speed: 12x
Software: CDspeed 4.7.7.16
Burned 2019
Scanned 2019

New FW from January 2019. Looks like an improvement, but the scans are very different


PioData DVS-S21DBK
#898

Writer: Piodata DVR-S21DBK
Firmware: 1.DF
Media: Verbatim DVD+R 16x Printable by CMC in 4-2017
MID: (MCC 004)
Burn Speed: 6x
Software: CDspeed 4.7.7.16
Burned 2019
Scanned 2019


#899

Burner: PX-755UF TLA #0107 (#359674)
Firmware: 1.08
Media: Verbatim 9537 16x DVD+R matte silver branded (MIT)
MID: MCC004
Stamper Code: ZD5176-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA08KD19103808 1
Burn Speed: 16x
PowerRec: On
AutoStrategy: Auto
Burning Software: Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.7.16

Disc manufactured April 19th, 2006 by CMC Magnetics Corp. “Intelliflix” packaging.

2019-03-01%20(2) 2019-03-01%20(3) 2019-03-02 2019-03-02%20(1) 2019-03-03%20(3) 2019-03-03%20(4) 2019-03-03%20(6) 2019-03-03%20(9)


#900

Burner: PX-755UF TLA #0107 (#359674)
Firmware: 1.08
Media: Verbatim 95037 16x DVD+R matte silver branded (MIT)
MID: MCC004
Stamper Code: ZD7595-DVR-T47D
Hub Serial: PAPA28KG0050688 5
Burn Speed: 16x
PowerRec: On
AutoStrategy: Auto
Burning Software: Nero CD-DVD Speed 4.7.7.16

Disc manufactured July 3, 2006 by CMC Magnetics Corp. “Intelliflix” packaging.

2019-03-02%20(3) 2019-03-03

2019-03-02%20(8) 2019-03-02%20(10) 2019-03-03%20(15) 2019-03-03%20(18) 2019-03-03%20(19) 2019-03-03%20(22)


#901

Written with ASUS DRW-24D5MT 1.00 at 8x on 21 March 2019
Verbatim DVD+R 16x AZO #43550 (50-pack) made in Taiwan by CMC Magnetics in July 2010


#902

Written with ASUS DRW-24D5MT 1.00 at 8x
Verbatim DVD+R 16x AZO #43550 (50-pack) made in Taiwan by CMC Magnetics in July 2010


#903

LG-drives still have better writing-quality than most other drives around


#904

This is a different spindle from the same batch as other discs above (made in July 2010) that scan terribly if burned with other drives.


#905

You think about LiteOn, QSI-Pioneer and Samsung? Maybe Pioneers BDR-drives can also burn it well


#906

I don’t have a Pioneer Blu-ray writer to test.


#907

Know this, but you tried with all others I mentioned?


#908

Yes and scans are above (look for same date).


#909

Some of your burns with Samsung-drives don´t look that bad, only the higher PIE in beginning isn´t so nice; but it should work in any drives.

First I thought the newer MCC-media (the MCC I burned at least is from 2017) have changed so much that drives like LiteOn are have problems because the write strategy is still from the time this media was released. But your media is much older and also problematic for LiteOn-drives.

unfortunately I don´t used in the early years of MCC 004 LiteOn-drives for burning, I prefered always other drives like Plextor, Benq, LG, Asus (own design, no rebadged LiteOns), Pioneer, so I can´t compare it with actual combination of MCC 004 and LiteOn


#910

If I remember correctly, my first LiteOn drive was an LH-20A1S about 10 years ago. At some point I was using that for both burning and scanning and the results with MCC 004 were generally very good. That was the only LiteOn drive I used that actually liked Verbatim media.


#911

GOOD drive suggestions for kyrcy, and for MCC 004 in general (new and old media):

Samsung SH-S183x / SH-S202x / SH-S203B up to SH-S223Q [revisions link]
NEC 3500A / 3520A / 4571A [revisions link]
Sony Optiarc AD-7200A / 7240S [revisions link]
BenQ DW1640 / DW1650 / DW1655
Plextor PX-716A / 755A / 760A
Pioneer DVR-109 to DVR-117
LG GSA-H20N to GH24NS70 / GH80N [revisions link]

Write strategy swapping may be required to reach optimal jitter levels. For brevity, many of the drives I listed are IDE, but the SATA versions have similar naming, eg. DVR-217 is DVR-117 and PX-760SA is PX-760A in SATA.

DO NOT USE:
ANY drive made after 2010, unless it’s on the list above. We are a high end forum and we care about getting as much quality as we can, which DVD-writers made after 2010 consistently fail to provide.

LITE-ON through LH-18A1P to iHAP122 9 could burn quality MCC 004 fine, but nothing extraordinary. After iHASx24 rev C, don’t bother with them at all.

The iHAS124 B (and newer LITE-ONs) used as a scanner tends to under-report PI/PO and overshoot jitter by at least 1% compared to older LITE-ON (up till iHAP122 9) and BenQ, so the quality scans need to be taken with a grain of salt - real error rates are higher than pictured, compared to reliable scanners.