Mitsubishi Chemicals DVD+R DL

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#1

NEC 2500A @ 2510 running Herries 2510 2.15 firmware hacked
with only rip speed and RPC 1 enabled.
Media Information

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Volume Name 28_DAYS_LATER_16
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 5/30/2004 18:30:12
Format Capacity 7.93GB(8.52GB)
Book Type DVD+R DL
Media Type DVD+R DL
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 3F72DFh
Layer 0 end sector 22BA1Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path

        Media ID Code Information

00000000 08 02 00 00 E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FE 9F …2…
00000010 00 22 BA 1F 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 ."…MKM…0
00000020 30 31 00 40 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 01.@%%7…/c./c!#
00000030 0D 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 …!#…

Scan done on a Liteon 451 @ 832S with firmware VS01 (code’s release)
(Yeah… this did work, but I wouldn’t try burning anything)
*Why this was done? The current specifications for the Liteon drive
models 401/411/811/451/851 show that they can read dual layer discs, but
this was NOT the case with this media. Only the 832S VS01 firmware
allowed my drive to read the disc. Seeing as how the firmware allowed the read, this hardware should have NO issues and we need to get on Lite-on
to upgrade their current firmwares to allow better double layer media reads!


#2

Wonderful observation here. Layer change is quite obvious isnt it?


#3

hehhee! - 451@832! - cool!
and not too bad on MKM 001 DL media!


#4

Yea, I tried the same thing weeks ago. Scans stuff just fine. But burning doesn’t work.

(yes, I know, it’s offtopic and I should know better… but since the other 2 posts to respond to are there, I can’t really post elsewhere… perhaps these 3 messages can be split off to another thread…)


#5

Liteon 812S -> 832S using VS04 from The Codeguys site.
Only modification on the VS04 is for the crossflashing.

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Application id
Book Type DVD+R DL
Media Type DVD+R DL
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 3F72DFh
Layer 0 end sector 22BA1Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path

Media ID Code Information

00000000 08 02 00 00 E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FE 9F …2…
00000010 00 22 BA 1F 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 ."…MKM…0
00000020 30 31 00 40 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 01.@%%7…/c./c!#
00000030 0D 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 …!#…

I didn’t do this scan, helped a friend do the 812 -> 832 and
had him KProbe it on the same drive.
Played fine on his standalones, no skipping / glitches.
Bitsetting was enabled to set this to DVD-ROM format.
Edited because I forgot the picture… heh



#6

NEC ND-2500 using retail NEC-ND-2510 2.15 firmware
Media Information

Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Volume Name
Application id
Implementation id
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 0/ 0/ 0 0:00:00
Format Capacity 7.95GB(8.54GB)
Book Type DVD+R DL
Media Type DVD+R DL
Media Id Code Speed 2.4x 3324KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 3FA2FFh
Layer 0 end sector 22D18Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path


  
  [b]Media ID:
  
  [/b]

0000 : e1 0f 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 fc ff ff 00 22 d7 ff …2…"…
0010 : 00 00 00 4d 4b 4d 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40 …MKM…001.@
0020 : 25 25 37 0c 02 2f 63 02 2f 63 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 %7…/c./c!#…
0030 : 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 02 00 00 00 00 …!#…
0040 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …


  
  [b]Scanback PI/PO software: Kprobe 2.2.2[/b]
  [img]http://www.users.on.net/zebra/NEC2500@2510_2.15_DL_MKM001.PNG[/img]

#7

SonyDWU18A as Liteon 812S -> 832S using VS04 from The Codeguys site.
Omnipatcher 1.2.0 with all avail. options selected (bitset, fast shift 8x, 6/8 and patch)

Disc Type DVD+R DL
Book Type DVD-ROM
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MKM001
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 7.34 GB
Layer 0 Capacity 3.92 GB
Free Size 0.00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 2
Track Path OTP
Linear Density 0.293 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 11.3x
Maximum Write Speed 2.4x
Current Write Speed 2.4x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 2.4x CLV



#8

NEC ND-2500a using 1.07 v2 Dual Layer Bitsetting Beta 5

 Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 
  Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001 
 Media Product Revision Number 00h  
  Volume Name             UNDEFINED 
 Application id 
 Implementation id      Spruce Technologies 
 Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 12/27/1999  9:56:45 
 Format Capacity 6.06GB(6.51GB) 
 Book Type DVD-ROM 
 Media Type DVD+R DL 

Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 307F3Fh
Layer 0 end sector 22199Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path
(info shown when disc is in NEC, when it’s in XJ-HD166S, it says Format Capacity 29.54GB(31.72GB))



#9

Sold as Verbatim Dual layer solutions pack. Burned 2.4x 812s@832s VS0A. Write quality kind of sucked with this firmware, it seems VS04 is giving better results for dual layer, next disc I get I will try that instead. This was LOTR - Return Of The King with 8125mb and booktype dvd-rom. Plays back perfect except for one chapter right after the layer break in my JVC TH-M505 home theater dvd changer. PS2 can’t get past layer break, and my 832s, 811s, 5232k, and Toshiba SD-R1002 drives have trouble reading the disc. I get read error on a reading curve in dvdspeed so it aborts.


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]

Disc Type : [DVD+R DL]
Manufacturer ID : [MKM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Kagaku Media]
Media Type ID : [001]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8,152.0MB = 7.96GB (8.55GB)]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : e1 0f 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 fc ff ff 00 22 d7 ff …2…"…
0010 : 00 00 00 4d 4b 4d 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40 …MKM…001.@
0020 : 25 25 37 0c 02 2f 63 02 2f 63 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 %7…/c./c!#…
0030 : 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 …!#…
0040 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0050 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0060 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0070 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]



#10

Verbatim DL
Burnt with NEC2500@2510
Scanned with 411S…

08 02 00 00 01 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF EF …2…
00 21 9E 8F 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 .!..MKM…0
30 31 00 40 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 01.@%%7…/c./c!#
0D 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 …!#…




#11

Disc Type DVD+R DL
Book Type DVD+R DL
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MKM001
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 5.98 GB
Layer 0 Capacity 3.22 GB
Free Size 0.00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 2
Track Path OTP
Linear Density 0.293 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 7.3x
Maximum Write Speed 2.4x
Current Write Speed 2.4x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 2.4x CLV

VID LITE-ON
PID DVDRW SOHW-832S (851@832)
F/W Revision VS0B
Date Code 2004/08/04 19:34
FlashROM Manufacturer ID C2
FlashROM Device ID 38
FlashROM Type MXIC(MX29LV081)(+3.3V)
Region 2
Vendor Resets Available 4
User Resets Available 4
RPC Scheme RPC II
Burst Rate 26.97 MB/S

System LINUX 2.6.7

K3b Version:0.11.14
KDE Version: 3.2.3
QT Version: 3.3.2

growisofs

Executing ‘builtin_dd if=/tmp/k3b_image.img of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0’
/dev/hdd: splitting layers at 1687904 blocks
/dev/hdd: “Current Write Speed” is 2.5x1385KBps.
6409945088/6419841024 (99.8%) @2.3x, remaining 0:02
/dev/hdd: flushing cache
/dev/hdd: closing track
/dev/hdd: closing disc

growisofs comand:

/usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/tmp/k3b_image.img -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=break:1687904 -dvd-compat -speed=2.4

COMMENT: satisfying OK quality media as expected from mitsubishi chemicals. fine firmware.

Linux users: route through ide-scsi to full reading speed.

@karr: could You release the source code of KProbe2 under a GPL compliant license to adapt it to LINUX, or release at least some interface specs to create a wrapper for WINE ?

thx, woppr.





#12

I’m a linux user, and am about to give some DL media a test spin. Could you please explain some of those use-the-force-luke options, namely the tty option, and the break option.

Thanks :slight_smile:


#13

if you were a linux user you could read manpages or use simply k3b.

and youre surely able to read the posting regulation here.

@MOD: delete please, thx.


#14

From the manpage …

  [I] "There're   several   undocumented   options   commonly   denoted   with
   -use-the-force-luke prefix. Some of them serve debugging purposes. Some
   require  certain  knowledge  about  recording process or even OS kernel
   internals and as being such can induce confusing behaviour. Some are to
   be  used in very specific situations better recognized by front-ends or
   automated scripts. Rationale behind leaving these options  undocumented
   is  that  those  few users who would actually need to use them directly
   can as well consult the source code  or  obtain  specific  instructions
   elsewhere."[/I]

Hence my asking what those options were used for, as consulting the source code didn’t give the answers I’m looking for.
:smiley:


#15

Hi I finally went and burnet a DL disk. MITSHUBISHI +R DL

Okay i did it on a LG GSA- 4120B
Firmware A110

Anyway i was very pleased, i ran the test on the SOHD LITEON 167T Firmware Using the Kprobe and DVDINFOPRO

Media Information
Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name LOTR_RETURN_OF_T
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 9/29/2004 1:58:14
Format Capacity 7.30GB(7.84GB)
Book Type DVD-ROM
Media Type DVD+R DL
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 3A644Fh
Layer 0 end sector 20E75Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path




#16

DOne a second DL disk Here are the results.

Date : 2/10/2004 7:48:19 PM
Model : 1-0-0-0 D:
Disc : DVD-ROM , [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 3803960
Sampling count : 189085
Errors : 0
PI Max : 238
PI Average : 16.27
PI Total : 455235
PIF Max : 208
PIF Average : 5.08
PIF Total : 142074



#17

BenQ 800@822 B3XC (Dual Layer 822 enabled Firmware)

                        Media Information                            

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Media code/Manufacturer ID MKM 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Format Type UDF 1.02
Volume Name Kill Bill_Vol1&2
Application id
Implementation id AHEAD Nero
Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 8/19/2004 7:16:32
Format Capacity 7.93GB(8.52GB)
Book Type DVD-ROM
Media Type DVD+R DL
Data area starting sector 30000h
Data area end sector 3F7A2Fh
Layer 0 end sector 22BD7Fh
Linear Density 0.293um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 2
Layer Track Path direction (OTP) Opposite track path

                       Media ID

00000000 08 02 00 00 01 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF 2F …2…/
00000010 00 22 BD 7F 00 00 00 4D 4B 4D 00 00 00 00 00 30 ."…MKM…0
00000020 30 31 00 40 25 25 37 0C 02 2F 63 02 2F 63 21 23 01.@%%7…/c./c!#
00000030 0D 0E 14 14 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0D 0E 14 14 02 …!#…

Burned at 2.4x, scanned at 4x 8ecc on a
Liteon 451@832 with CodeGuys CG3B firmware (VS0B based)



#18

Verbatim DVD+R DL burnt on my NEC 3500A using NEC/IODATA 2.27 firmware bitsetting DVD-ROM…movie LOTR-Return of The King. Plays perfect in my standalone (pioneer).

0000 : e1 0f 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 fc ff ff 00 22 d7 ff …2…"…
0010 : 00 00 00 4d 4b 4d 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 31 00 40 …MKM…001.@
0020 : 25 25 37 0c 02 2f 63 02 2f 63 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 %7…/c./c!#…
0030 : 02 01 01 10 00 21 23 0d 0e 14 14 02 00 00 00 00 …!#…


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R-DL:MKM-001-000]

Disc Type : [DVD+R DL]
Manufacturer ID : [MKM]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Kagaku Media]
Media Type ID : [001]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code : [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2.4x]
Blank Disc Capacity : [4,173,824 Sectors = 8,152.0MB = 7.96GB (8.55GB)]

[DVD Identifier - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com]


#19

Verbatim +R DL burnt with LiteOn SOHW-832S VS0B, DVD-ROM bitsetting. No problems with XBox (Samsung drive), Pioneer 444-K & Philips DVP720SA standalone DVD players.

Date                     : 09/10/2004 11.48.11
Model                    : 3-0-0-0 E:LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-832S  VS0B
Disc                     : DVD+R DL , MKM001 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed                    : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF)  : 8/1
Scanned range            : 0 - 3923118
Sampling count           : 222268
Errors                   : 0
PI Max                   : 22
PI Average               : 2,99
PI Total                 : 86172
PIF Max                  : 3
PIF Average              : 0,07
PIF Total                : 2145


#20

I posted this on another thread (Verbatim DL Media) with no response. I apologize if this is a no-no, but I’m curious for opinions. What do you think of this scan? Is there a better firmware that takes care of that error jump at the layer change?

verbatim DL media