Media Range 50 GB BD-R DL crap?


#1

Is there anyone who has successfully burned and read the full 50 GB BD-R DL by Media Range?

I bought a pack of 10 discs back in summer of 2016 and the burning process is always good but every single disc fails to read apparently in the layers breaks (at 50% the otherwise fluent read process gets frozen). Ironically I also use their single layer 25 GB BR-Rs and these are absolutely fine. It seems like a layers break issue.

The only way to have a fully readable compilation it to turn on Nero’s blu-ray defects management under drive options but it makes very little sence since you lose space and we are talking about brand new media.

I have two different blu ray burners: ASUS BW-16D1HT firmware 3.0 and Pioneer BDR-209EBK firmware 1.31. I have tried both burning and reading in these two drives, burning speed 2x, the result are absolutely the same. Burning process fine, reading process halts at 50%.

I have tried Nero Burning Rom 2017 and Burn Aware Free - no difference.

I also have Verbatim 100 GB BD-R XL and these discs burn and read absolutely fine. And these are triple layers if you think about it!

So my conclusion is: There is something wrong with multilayer blu-ray discs by Media Range. They either fail to manufacture them properly or use incompatible materials. And I am pretty much determined to use only Verbatim MABL multilayers in the future since their BDXLs prove to be fully functional as one would expect from a sealed product.


#2

Mediarange is not a media-manufacturer, they buy media from different manufacturers and let print Mediarange on it.

Can you use DVD-Identifier to check which mediacode the media have?

http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/


#3

MediaRange has been very responsive to my inquires, but I have not tried their products as most are made in India.


#4

https://www.nierle.com/s01.php?shopid=s01&sp=de&ag=1&pp=suche&cat=2181&suchstr=&link_and=1&suchstrmc=&hersteller=69&cat=2181&sortierung=

I think they do it like many other labeler and buy the stuff they get cheap :wink:

The mediacodes can vary, Nierle is to lazy to update it (I´m sure if you buy Intenso there which are wear Infodisc-Mid in shop you will get Intenso with Ume/AML-mid), but if they write mid-code yyy you can be sure the brand really use/used those mid.

Only bought 25GB BD-R from Mediarange, 4x was MBI and 6x CMCBA5. I paid less for 25pcs as for cheap made MBI DVD+R DL from Platinum.


#5

• Here it is - Media Range 50 GB DL 6x non printable. What? This can’t be the same Verbatim quality as my BDXLs:


Unique Disc Identifier : [BD-R-DL:VERBAT-IMf-000]

Disc Type : [BD-R DL : Class 0 - Version 1]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Kagaku Media]
Manufacturer ID : [VERBAT]
Media Type ID : [IMf]
Product Revision : [000]
Stamper Date : [Not Present On Disc]
Layer Info : [2 Layers (L0-L1) : 25.03 GB (23.31 GiB) Per Layer]
Blank Disc Capacity : [24,438,784 Sectors = 50.05 GB (46.61 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x , 6x]

[ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

• And here is a single layer 25 GB Media Range (4x, non printable) which work fine (dozens of burns no issue):


Unique Disc Identifier : [BD-R-SL:PHILIP-R04-000]

Disc Type : [BD-R SL : Class 0 - Version 1]
Manufacturer Name : [Philips]
Manufacturer ID : [PHILIP]
Media Type ID : [R04]
Product Revision : [000]
Stamper Date : [Not Present On Disc]
Layer Info : [1 Layer (L0) : 25.03 GB (23.31 GiB) Per Layer]
Blank Disc Capacity : [12,219,392 Sectors = 25.03 GB (23.31 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x , 2x , 4x]

[ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

• And finally - Verbatim BDXL printable - they work really well unlike Media Range DLs:


Unique Disc Identifier : [BD-R-3L:VERBAT-IMk-000]

Disc Type : [BD-R 3L : Class 1 - Version 2]
Manufacturer Name : [Manufacturer Not Found In Database]
Manufacturer ID : [VERBAT]
Media Type ID : [IMk]
Product Revision : [000]
Stamper Date : [Not Present On Disc]
Layer Info : [3 Layers (L0-L2) : 497.12 GB (462.98 GiB) Per Layer]
Blank Disc Capacity : [728,202,096 Sectors = 1,491.36 GB (1,388.94 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [?x]

[ DVD Identifier V5.2.0 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]


#6

Hm, the printable DL have original Verbatim-Code.
AFAIK this media is one of the best or best BD-R DL media, if it´s original. But it can be Mediarange sells lower quality

I don´t know if it is original or a faked media like it happened long time ago with DVD-media.

Maybe anyone here knows more?

Generally I try to stay away from DL-media because I have bad experieneces since DVD-media.

Here I saw the results with DL-media are vary a lot i quality, depending also on the writer and write speed

The Mediarange with PHILIP-R04 could be made by different manufacturer and vary a lot in quality. I had TDK-branded with awful quality if burning more than 20GB and good media labeled as Xlyne. So you have luck to get a good one :slight_smile:


#7

In your link I can see some negative feedback as well:

https://www.nierle.com/de/artikel/31715/MediaRange_Blu-ray_Disc_BD-R_DL,50_GB-_270_min,_6x,_Gelabeled,_25_Stueck_in_Cakebox.html

Also googling for MediaRange BD-R-DL:VERBAT-IMf-000 gives results with negative experience.

Media Range vs. original Verbatim cannot be the same. Impossible.


#8

I don´t know whether exist also faked BD-R-media with Mitsubishi-codes . Can you see in which country your media was made?


#9

Unfortunately I always get rid of the paper spindle packaging so I don’t have that information now. All I can say I bought them last summer, it was the new blue & white design and I remember the sign “made in India” but not sure if it was these DLs or SLs (perhaps both?). Verbatim BDXLs are Made In Japan I still have the packaging since these are in standard jewel cases box.


#10

MB India is one or the largest manufacturer of Verbatim-/Mitsubishi-media, PHILIP-R04 could also be made by Moser Baer.

The quality of MBI with Mitsubishi-Codes maybe not always great, but mostly OK. But like I said, Mediarange perhaps use B or C-grade-media, for Verbatim they will use probably A-grade


#11

I think I can understand what do you mean with MediaRange, but with Verbatim AZO they should be the same grade except the variation due to the different factories.


#12

But how big the “normal” variations are?

DL-media was always picky, so I use it only if there is no other way.


#13

I don’t use blu-ray, but the variation in dvd media can be great. I often throw away discs after burning and testing, as I consider the scans unacceptable. And I mostly use Verbatim AZO media.


#14

So theres no difference between Verbatim and brands like Mediarange :wink: ?

Sometimes I have Verbatim which is more worse than Ritek S04, CMC MAG D04, MBIPG101 R10, CMC MAG D01, but overall Verbatim is the better DL in DVD.

But the best I ever had were MKM 001, the first DL-media from Verbatim, 2,4x speed, made in Singapur. But it was very expensive.

BTT: I don´t have an idea about the big problems tommik had, maybe a bad batch, even for Mediarange? The BD-writer he have are good, I don´t think the problems came from the writers


#15

I did not say that as I was talking about variation of Verbatim media made in different factories.


#16

I guess there are only two manufacturer left which make Verbatim-media, CMC and MBI. How many different factories they have I don´t know.

Here I found very cheap Mediarange DVD which uses MCC-Code

http://www.discobianco.com/mediarange-gelabelt-stck-cakebox-p-5881.html

Maybe still DVD-fakes with MCC-Code on the market? Or Grade C from MBI?


#17

From the link you provided:

Manufacturer Name: [.Ume Disc Manufacturing Ltd.]
Manufacturer ID: [UME02]

I don’t think MediaRange uses any MCC media.


#18

I see this in my link:

Unique Disc Identifier: [DVD-R:MCC 03RG20]
Disc & Book Type: [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name: [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manuacturer ID: [MCC 03RG20]
Blank Disc Capacity: [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

UME I only found in Intenso


#19

This is what I see:


#20

Strange…depend on browser language or country?

FireShot Screen Capture #001 - ‘MediaRange DVD-R 4_7 GB gelabelt - 16x - 100 St�ck in Cakebox - Disco Bianco - CDRohlinge24___’ - www_discobianco_com.pdf (445.5 KB)