Media Problem With New PX716A drive

vbimport

#1

Hi Everyone,

First of all “A very Happy New Year to one and all”

Right down to business, i have just purchased a PX-716A/T3 DVDWriter to replace my old Sony DRU-510AK, but i’m having problems with some Ritek Media, namely Arita 8x with the new GO5 dye and Ridata 8x also with the new GO5 dye. When i burn to this media with either Ulead Movie Factory software or Nero6 i get the following problem…

When i try to do either a disc to disc copy or burn from hard drive the 716a burns to the disc, you can see the burn mark on the rear of the disc, there are noerrors coming up during the burning process, but when the burn finishes and i click on the finish button it takes ages to finalize and open the tray to remove the disc, when i try to play the disc(s) in my DVD player or on my computer via the 716a, after the initial disc reading i get “No disc” message appear. So far i have quite a collection of coasters buliding up, now there wasn’t problem with these discs on my old Sony drive 100% burn rate. I have tried checking the Autostrategy settings and it is empty yet i thought this drive was meant to learn new media for future use in Autostrategy. When i use my old stock of Riteks with the GO4 dye it burns with no problems, i have used DVDIdentifier and it recognises the new Ritek GO5 discs. I have tried burning at all the speeds 2x, 4x, 6x, and 8x but still get the coasters.

Can someone please help me as Ritek have ceased production of the GO4 discs so they are in short supply now.

Sorry forgot to mention its a TLA0202 with1.03 firmware installed same day as i installed the drive.

Kind regards

Fitzy71


#2

[Edit: Weird … nothing there when I first replied]

The only way to confirm a media incompatibility (and Ritek G04 isn’t the best available) is to compare a burn with Plex-recommended media - Ritek is merely “supported”.

How about the Plextor (probably Taiyo Yuden T02 MID) that came with the drive?


#3

i have had the EXACT same problem with the EXACT same media, thanx to engineer, he solved my problem

burn the the disc at 4x

problem solved

hope that helps

thanx alot engineers :slight_smile:


#4

Currently the Plextor PX-716A does NOT support DVDR media with the Ritek G05 media ID code. Plextor has said that they’re working on adding support for this media in a future firmware release. All you can do is wait unfortunately and switch to another media type or burn them at a low speed as WE-DeusEx*2001 suggested.

Ps. WE-DeusEx*2001 are you sure that works? I thought the media didn’t work at all…?


#5

#6

Thanks for the responses, i have tried burning at all the speeds from 2x upto 8x and get the same coaster, so i’ll just have to wait until the new firmware comes out that supports this media and just stock up on some more GO4 discs.

Thanks guys

Fitzy71


#7

sorry, i never seen that,

well i know for a fact i have that media and i was also pissed off, but burning at 4x works perfect for me, even burns 1:1 copy’s of I Robot aswell


#8

How do you know this, G@M3FR3@K? Not that I doubt you, but Plextor has always mentioned brand name and never MID. I’d love it if they’d use MIDs like all the rest of us do. As it is, Plextor’s site lists Ritek DVD+R “compatible” with 716:

Ritek 12X (4X ~ 12X) DVD+R (8X)
Ritek 8X (4X ~ 8X) DVD+R (8X)
Ritek 2.4X DVD+R (2.4X)
Ritek 12X (4X ~ 12X) DVD+R (16X)

and -R:

Ritek 2X DVD-R (2X)
Ritek 8X (4X ~ 8X) DVD-R (8X)
Ritek 4X DVD-R (4X)

Not that any of that information tells a media code!


#9

you can disable write strategy within plextools and wrtite the media not more then 4x
write strategy = pain doesnt work full proof
use this solution until new firmware is released


#10

engineers posted this information which mentions it. Also, we’ve seen many reports on problems with the Ritek G05 media and OC-Freak has also confirmed it. So, I was basing my info on posts by others :wink: engineers thanks for the extra info!


#11

Have just tried burning a GO5 disc(4x) with the write strategy(autostartegy) turned off and got the same coaster again, i will just have to sit it out until the new firmware to cover these discs comes out, WE-DeusEx*2001 must just be lucky to have a 716A that does write to them at 4x only. I will just have to re-install my old sony DVDWriter as a second drive and burn to these discs using this drive until then.

Regards,

Fitzy71

p.s. If anyone hears of any more news or developments with regards to these discs please reply to this topic. Thanks


#12

I am talking over it some problem with this drive with plextor in belgium, because in 2 of my systems with both winxp pro sp2 Intelchipset 875p the drive are not working proper as it should, in the mean time I switched of autostrategy to make them work, and the Ritek G05 is not supported as well, but in some configs the 716 works with that media on 4x write.

So lets hope that plextor has an solution of a lot of theire problems with this drive ( prb new firmware )

Only really supported media works fine on this drive, on none supported media autostrategy should work, but it aint work full proof.

So keep posted as soon I get feedback from plextor with tips I report them here.
I mailed today 07-Jan-2004 the last results to feedback@plextor.be here is my report wich I send to them see below

Gooday plextor feedback team

I have a odd problem here related with 2 of my plextors 716 one installed on
a asus p4c800-deluxe cpu p4 3ghz fsb 800mhz, second system dual xeon 2.66 on
a asus pc-dl deluxe fsb 533 mhz ram on both systems are each 2gb dual
channel. (both systems has a intel 875p chipset)
The problem is when i switch auto strategy on I get roller coaster with
media with media code ricohjpn r01 and ricohjpn r02.r03, but with auto
strategy off it makes good burnings (flawless), with auto stategy on it
takes about 1 min until the burning prg like nero latest release see the
media, sp its take a long loading time, i have tried also several other
burning prgs but same problem there.
But i also have a thirth plextor 716 running on a suppermicro 370 dle
2xP3/1000mhz (intel serverworks cipset 2,5gb ecc reg ram) there the drive works
fullproof with auto strategy on, also with the same media, and the media is
also starting to burn much faster, i also swapped the drives from the asus
board to the supermicro board and there they are working flawless so it aint
a drive prolem.

please give me an advice


#13

here is one overview of one system that doesnt work with auto strategy on


Plextor Info Utility V1.23
Copyright © 1999-2004 Plextor SA/NV
07 januari 2005


Software Information


Operating system : Windows XP V5.01.2600 Service Pack 2
Windows ASPI (wnaspi32.dll) : Adaptec ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, V4.60 (1021) (not used by PXInfo)
Roxio ASPI (cdral.dll) : n/a
Ahead ASPI (wnaspi32.dll) : Win32 Nero Aspi Library V2.0.1.74 (not used by PXInfo)


Hardware Information


IDE Interface: 0 ID: - Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Primair IDE-kanaal
Type : IDE ATA/ATAPI-controllers

Port Driver : atapi.sys
Provider :
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Date :

ID 0: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG V2.18

ID 1 (K:) PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W5224A V1.03 (S/N:429199) (1.19.25C)
Read speed: 18-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 010
Buffer Underrun Proof enabled
PoweRec: enabled
Auto Insert Notification: no
DMA: yes


IDE Interface: 1 ID: - Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Secundair IDE-kanaal
Type : IDE ATA/ATAPI-controllers

Port Driver : atapi.sys
Provider :
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version : 5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Date :

ID 0 (L:) PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A V1.03 (S/N:196273) (0.0.0A - 2.55.28D)
Read speed: 17-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 001
Buffer Underrun Proof enabled
AutoStrategy: disabled
PoweRec: enabled
Auto Insert Notification: no
DMA: yes

ID 1: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-M1712 VJ004


SCSI Interface: 2 ID: 0 Maximum # Targets : -
Description :
Type :

Port Driver : Fasttrak.sys
Provider :
Description : Promise FastTrak Series Driver for WinXP (Promise Technology, Inc.)
Location : C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Fasttrak.sys
Version : 2.00.0.34
Date :

ID 0: Promise 2+0 Stripe/RAID0 V1.10


SCSI Interface: 3 ID: 7 Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Adaptec AHA-2940UW PCI SCSI-controller
Type : SCSI- en RAID-controllers

Port Driver : aic78xx.sys
Provider :
Description : Adaptec Ultra SCSI miniport (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\aic78xx.sys
Version : v3.60a (Lab01_N.010510-0033)
Date :

ID 1 (N:) PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W8220T V1.05 (S/N:091141) (70.49.34D)
Read speed: 9-20 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 10010000
Auto Insert Notification: no

ID 2 (O:) PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS V1.14 (S/N:810313) ()
Read speed: 17-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 01010000
Auto Insert Notification: no


SCSI Interface: 4 ID: 0 Maximum # Targets : -
Description :
Type :

Port Driver : fasttx2k.sys
Provider :
Description : Promise Driver for Windows XP (Promise Technology, Inc.)
Location : C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\Fasttx2k.sys
Version : 1.00.1.37
Date :

ID 0: Promise 2+0 Stripe/RAID0 V1.10

ID 1: Promise RAID Console V1.00

USB Device Information:

Host Controller \.\HCD0 found.

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D2

| |—> Port[2] = Hub connected

| |—> Port[2] = I/O device connected
| | DeskJet 950C
| | Ondersteuning voor USB-afdrukken

Host Controller \.\HCD1 found.

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D4

Host Controller \.\HCD2 found.

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24D7

Host Controller \.\HCD3 found.

Intel(R) 82801EB USB Universal Host Controller - 24DE

Host Controller \.\HCD4 found.

Intel(R) 82801EB USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 24DD

| |—> Port[1] = I/O device connected
| | hp scanjet
| | HP Scanjet 3970


PlexTools Professional Registry Information

General

PlexTools version : 2.19a
SaveSettings : true
Minimize : true
Create icon in taskbar : true
Autorun : true
Set trayicon after close : true
Read disc information : true

CD Info

DisplayMSF : true
DisplayISRC : false

Digital Audio Extraction

DetectPregap : false
IncludePregap : false
Use audio error detection : true
Reduce speed : false
SaveCDText : true
SaveTrackNumber : false
SaveArtist : false
mp3 encoding : Windows
Audio Format : PCM
Path : C:\Program Files\Plextor
Filename : Track%N
Minimum bitrate : 0
Constant/Average bitrate : 0
Maximum bitrate : 0
Quality : 0
L.A.M.E. encoding method : CBR

CD Copy

Allow Overburning : true
CopyOnTheFly : false
Use audio error detection : false
Reduce speed : false
Eject destination disc : true
ISRC : false
UPC : false
CD+G : false
LeaveDiscOpen : false
PlaySound : false
WriteOption : Simulate + Write
Copies : 1
Temp. path : C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp
sound path : none
source path : D:\cdrtemp\ps2dvd
destination path : C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\

AudioCD Maker

WriteOption : Simulate + Write
CDText : true
UPC : true
ISRC : true
WriteSpeed : maximum
Copies : 1


#14

and here is a system overview where the plextor is working perfect only Ritek G05 doesnt work at 4x

Plextor Info Utility V1.23
Copyright © 1999-2004 Plextor SA/NV
07 januari 2005


Software Information


Operating system : Windows 2000 V5.00.2195 Service Pack 4
Windows ASPI (wnaspi32.dll) : Adaptec ASPI for Win32 (95/NT) DLL, V4.60 (1021) (not used by PXInfo)
Roxio ASPI (cdral.dll) : n/a
Ahead ASPI (wnaspi32.dll) : Win32 Nero Aspi Library V2.0.1.74 (not used by PXInfo)


Hardware Information


IDE Interface: 0 ID: - Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Primair IDE-kanaal
Type : IDE ATA/ATAPI-controllers

Port Driver : atapi.sys
Provider :
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version : 5.00.2195.6699
Date :

ID 0 (J:) PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W4012A V1.06 (S/N:054883) (49.54.55D)
Read speed: 17-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 001
Buffer Underrun Proof disabled
PoweRec: enabled
Auto Insert Notification: no
DMA: yes

ID 1: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3500AG V2.18


IDE Interface: 1 ID: - Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Secundair IDE-kanaal
Type : IDE ATA/ATAPI-controllers

Port Driver : atapi.sys
Provider :
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Version : 5.00.2195.6699
Date :

ID 0 (M:) PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716A V1.03 (S/N:196277) (0.1.1A - 5.20.15D)
Read speed: 17-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 001
Buffer Underrun Proof disabled
AutoStrategy: enabled
PoweRec: enabled
Auto Insert Notification: no
DMA: yes


SCSI Interface: 2 ID: 0 Maximum # Targets : -
Description :
Type :

Port Driver : Fasttrak.sys
Provider :
Description : Promise FastTrak Series Driver for Win2000 (Promise Technology, Inc.)
Location : C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\Fasttrak.sys
Version : 2.00.0.34
Date :

ID 0: Promise 4+0 Stripe/RAID0 V1.10


SCSI Interface: 3 ID: 7 Maximum # Targets : -
Description : Adaptec AHA-2940U/AHA-2940UW PCI SCSI-controller
Type : SCSI- en RAID-controllers

Port Driver : aic78xx.sys
Provider :
Description : Adaptec CHIM Family SCSI miniport (Microsoft Corporation)
Location : C:\WINNT\system32\drivers\aic78xx.sys
Version : v2.20b
Date :

ID 3 (K:) PLEXTOR CD-ROM PX-40TS V1.14 (S/N:106212) ()
Read speed: 17-40 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 11010000
Auto Insert Notification: no

ID 4 (L:) PLEXTOR CD-R PX-W1210S V1.06 (S/N:118965) (147.38.34D)
Read speed: 14-32 X CAV
Jumper Settings: 00110000
Buffer Underrun Proof disabled
Auto Insert Notification: no

ID 2: ARCHIVE Python 04106-XXX V7550

USB Device Information:

Host Controller \.\HCD0 found.

NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller

| |—> Port[1] = I/O device connected
| | Hewlett Packard ScanJet 5300C
| | Hewlett-Packard ScanJet 5300C
| |—> Port[2] = I/O device connected
| | DeskJet 970C
| | Ondersteuning voor USB-afdrukken

Host Controller \.\HCD1 found.

NEC PCI to USB Open Host Controller

Host Controller \.\HCD2 found.

Standaard OpenHCD PCI naar USB-hostcontroller

| |—> Port[2] = I/O device connected
| | Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer® 1.0A

Extended Information:


PlexTools Professional Registry Information

General

Key not found!

CD Info

Key not found!

Digital Audio Extraction

Key not found!

CD Copy

Key not found!

AudioCD Maker

Key not found!