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#1

Hello friends

I am new to this DVD burning and the media concerned Recently I bought two branded media whose disc information is as follows, as I obtained using DVD Identifier:


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:POSG06]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [Postech Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [POSG06]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165H6S - [FW HS0E] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW DVD-RAM
** INFO : Disc = [DVD-R:POSG06]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #3 = 5540 kBps ( 4.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 0Eh - Pre-Recorded Information In Lead-In
0000 : 01 40 c1 fd 9e d8 52 00 02 85 0d 10 88 9a 80 00 .@…R…
0010 : 03 50 4f 53 47 30 36 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 .POSG06…
0020 : 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0d 13 87 78 80 00 …x…
0030 : 07 88 80 00 00 00 00 00 08 06 18 0d 10 0e 07 00 …
0040 : 09 97 07 0d 0b 78 88 00 0a 80 00 00 00 00 10 00 …x…
0050 : 0b 07 19 15 a7 88 75 00 0c 99 bc aa a2 20 22 00 …u… ".
0060 : 0d 00 00 d0 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Control Data Zone’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘CDZ’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 10h - Physical Format Information Of Control Data Zone
0000 : 25 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 12 7f 00 00 00 00 %…&…

[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

AND


Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-003-000]

Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [003]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x]

** INFO : Drive = LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165H6S - [FW HS0E] - [ATAPI]
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD+R DVD+R-DL DVD+RW
** INFO : Write Capabilities = DVD-R DVD-R-DL DVD-RW DVD-RAM
** INFO : Disc = [DVD+R:MCC-003-000]
** INFO : Reference Speed : 1x DVD = 1385 kBps
** INFO : An Writeable Disc Is Recommended For Accurate Results
** INFO : Write Speeds (Supported By This Drive On This Disc) Listed Below

** INFO : GET PERFORMANCE Write Speed Descriptor(s)
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : MODE SENSE Write Speed Descriptor(s) [Legacy Command]
** WARNING : MODE SENSE Is Obsolete And Not Always Properly Supported
Descriptor #1 = 11080 kBps ( 8.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]
Descriptor #2 = 8310 kBps ( 6.00x) - [CLV/Non-Pure CAV]

** INFO : Hex Dump Of ‘Media Code’-Block Listed Below
** INFO : 4-Byte Header Preceding ‘Media Code’-Block Discarded
** INFO : Format 11h (Method 1) - ADIP Information
0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 …MCC…003.8
0020 : 23 54 37 15 02 52 6c 02 b4 63 15 15 0b 0a 08 08 #T7…Rl…c…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 31 5f 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 …88.1_…#…
0050 : 00 00 02 31 5f 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 …1_…#…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 63 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 …Tp./cg … …
0070 : 00 00 02 43 63 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 36 …Ccg … …6
0080 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0090 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00a0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00b0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00c0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00d0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00e0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
00f0 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …

[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]

Now problems are:

  1. I can not find much information on the first one, so could any one please tell me about the quality of these type of media?

  2. The second one I bought under a different brand name [FOXEN Professional]. So how can I be sure whether it is original verbatim or fake ones?

I burnt DVD video in both type of discs Using ImgBurn and verified. The operation completed successfully in both the cases and both types played well in my stand Alone DVD player.

So please help.


#2
  1. Is probably crap, never heard of it. Chances of being crap are about 80%
  2. Definitely sounds like fake Verbatim. Any chance you could post pics of the spindle or case of the disc?

Burn both these discs at 4x for now, just in case they are both of very low quality.


#3

By the way, you have a liteon I see?

With this, you can perform a quality scan. Open Nero Cd Speed. http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroCDSpeed_4700.zip

Select disc quality. On settings select 4x. Click the advanced button and also select “jitter”. Click start up the top.

You can save the result by pressing the save button, which right up the top in shape of a floppy disc. When you have the results saved to file, post back here and click manage attachments down the bottom of the post screen and upload your pictures of your scans.

We can then tell you if the discs are crappy. Also, you can go to the “benchmark” tab in nero cd speed. You can then select “run test” up the top, then click Transfer rate. This test checks to see if your drive can read the disc at maximum speed.

This is what it should look like.



#4

Thank you cd pirate for your reply.

I have burnt both the discs using 4x speed.

For the tests do I need to use a Blank Media? Will already written media will do?

Waiting eagerly…


#5

The tests are designed for already burnt discs so you can test whether they were burned well :slight_smile:


#6

Already written is a necessity, actually. :wink:


#7

Postech has been one of my favorite media codes, I automatically think ‘Piece of S#^t Tech’ :stuck_out_tongue: . Having said that, I don’t know if it’s any good or not so it may not be a fair nickname to give it. It actually gets good reviews it seems. http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia.php?dvdmediasearch=&dvdmediadvdridsearch=pos&type=11&size=All&dvdburnspeed=All&order=Name&hits=50&search=Search+or+List+Media


#8

Hi friends :slight_smile:

No worries, I am going to run the tests in a while and I shall post the results here…so we can decide without any trouble…:wink:


#9

Hello arrirc

If you really want to know about blank media and which ones to buy or not to buy read this on media

Tim :cool:


#10

:disagree:


#11

I would prefer to read this forum often than to trust and read any other article by some person who probably just posted a whole lot of stuff they read about.

Cd freaks has been reliable and many people have been testing various media here from back when CD-R came out.


#12

I know but what is there at that link does give an idea what to look for as far as buying media goes, all burners act different on different computers when it comes to the media.

Tim :cool:


#13

Hi cd pirate,

Please find the results of the tests as attachments with this post. One thing I should inform you that I have used Nero CD-DVD speed 4.11 available in my NERO Toolkit, it does not match in version with the one you suggested, but unfortunately I did not notice it earlier. I have downloaded the 4.7.000 version, and did the last test with this version. If need arise, I can retest others too.

The first two are Benchmark and Disc Quality test of [B]MCC-003[/B] [Foxen Professional] media, and the last two are the same test results of [B]POSG06[/B] media.

I have also saved Disc Quality Report for POSG06, which is as follows:

General Information
Drive: LITE-ON DVDRW SHM-165H6S
Firmware: HS0E
Disc: DVD-R (POSG06)
Selected speed: 4 X
PI errors
Maximum: 288
Average: 83.97
Total: 913662
PI failures
Maximum: 3
Average: 0.16
Total: 3007
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 10:56
Number of samples: 93755
Average scanning interval: 1.15 ECC
Glitches removed: 0






#14

I’m so glad I’m not the only one :bigsmile:

Mind you, I haven’t tried it either :wink:


#15

DigitalFAQ isn’t a good website to use for info - pretty old, and pretty much irrelevant. If you want some info, it’s much better to ask on a forum such as this where you will be better guided as to specific questions and answers :slight_smile:


#16

Amen. If ever I was in doubt I’d ask right here on CDF - members here take into account burners and firmware etc, not just mediacode :slight_smile:


#17

Ok, could some of the experts here comment on the test results please? :frowning:

BTW, I agree about DigitalFAQ, its pretty old, but still it tries to help, so please let us keep its dignity…:slight_smile:


#18

The Piece o’ S#^t-Tech burn looks decent, although PIE levels are very high - stability of this media is unknown to me, but if it’s not unstable media then it should be ok, I’d check a couple of your Postech discs every few months just to see how stable they are. The MCC003 disc is almost certainly fake and the disc has a high density of PIFs rising towards the edge and a couple of very minor dips in the TRT - it looks ok functionally for the time being, although I would reburn it if it’s important data as stability is unknown and the burn’s marginal as it is.


#19

Thank you so much :slight_smile:

Could you please explain to me what exactly do you mean by the parameter “stability” and how can one check it?


#20

You can only check stability by keeping the disc for a while and comparing older PIE/PIF scans with newer ones. :slight_smile: