MCC003 and MCC003 difference

vbimport

#1

Hi! I have found a strange difference between Verbatim DVD+R 8X (MCC003) in jewel case and Verbatim DVD+R 8X (MCC003) in 10pcs cakebox.

The media from jewel cases written at 12X all give the same results when scanning. When the speed reaches 9X and higher, the PIE/PIFs are going up to unacceptable values (1st scan).
When writing at 8X, it is OK, but you can see how the disc spinning slowed down on the scan (the PIE values go down) (2nd scan).

The media from cakebox are perfect. They can be written at 12X with no problems. (3rd scan).

The strange thing is, that I thought that media in jewelcases are of higher quality than those from cakeboxes… but this proves me wrong.


#2

You’re making too many generalisations. Where was the media in the jewel cases made? Where was the media in the cakeboxes made? I’ve burned jewel case MCC003 @ 12X with a disc quality scan of 99%. Your sample size is just too small to make the sweeping generalisations you have made.


#3

OK, how do I know where those media were made?


#4

it’ll say on the box :slight_smile:


#5

Ahh, you’re right. Both are made in Taiwan


#6

AFAIK, in the middle of 2004, Verbatim produced MCC003 8x rated that cannot be overspeed and later they fixed the production and can be overspeed @12x. Check this out: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=740768&postcount=449

Check the tiny serial numbers on the inner ring of your disks.


#7

I’ve checked those:
8X: ZC8365-DVR-X47B, ZC8492-DVR-X47B

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 …MCC…003.8
0020 : 23 54 37 12 02 42 6e 02 a8 6b 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7…Bn…k…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 …88.-e…#…
0050 : 00 00 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 …-e…#…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 64 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 …Tp./dg … …
0070 : 00 00 02 42 5d 66 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 32 …B]f … …2

12X: ZC9667-DVR-X47B

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00 …&.?..
0010 : 00 00 03 4d 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 …MCC…003.8
0020 : 23 54 37 12 02 42 6e 02 a8 6b 15 15 0b 0b 08 08 #T7…Bn…k…
0030 : 01 19 1b 0c 0c 0c 0d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 …
0040 : 01 00 38 38 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 …88.-e…#…
0050 : 00 00 02 2d 65 1c 06 2e 23 10 04 1e 1d 01 00 00 …-e…#…
0060 : 02 00 54 70 02 2f 64 67 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 …Tp./dg … …
0070 : 00 00 02 42 5d 66 20 14 0b 0b 01 20 00 00 00 32 …B]f … …2

The media code blocks are the same, so it looks like there is another key…


#8

Take a look at the serials in the plastic hub area. Those will let us know if the discs were manufactured by CMC or Prodisc.


#9

8X:
PAH6321C31042077
PAH6321C30172787
PAH6321C31031690
PAH6321C31032457

12X:
PAHA23IF27004175 4
PAHA23IF27133498 4
PAHA23IF27133497 5
PAHA23IF27133496 6

BTW, MCC media are manufactured by CMC and Prodisc?


#10

MCC made in Taiwan is manufactured by CMC or Prodisc. Only MCC made in Singapore is actually made by Mitsubishi Chemical corp. BTW all of your discs are made by CMC.


#11

My MCC 003 are “made in taiwan”. Verbatim ID 94812.

So what?

I have the best scans I have ever had :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:


#12

No one’s saying the Taiwan MCC003 are bad, it’s just the Singapore ones tended to be better. The only Singapore MCC003 I’ve ever used was the X47A variety that could be burned at 8x max; I missed out on the X47B discs.